Im pretty much convinced the Knicks will phuck up any trade. However I think if they take the BPA they will be fine. Its when they think that things start going south

fishmike wrote:I would be fine with this pick at 4. If he's who the Knicks love book it.

Im pretty much convinced the Knicks will phuck up any trade. However I think if they take the BPA they will be fine. Its when they think that things start going south

I agree with not making a trade. Our draft record over the past 15 years is not too bad. Our trade record is atrocious. I don't trust this franchise with trades either.

I would not take neither Emmanuel nor Porzingis if players I cited is on board miraculously at #4th pick!

Allanfan20 wrote:

Solace wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Maybe Philly is taking him?

I think one of the Lakers, Philly or Knicks, yes. Not sure which. But considering we heard right away that he had a bad workout in LA and suddenly I am hearing the opposite about his workouts, I'm wondering if it's the Lakers.

Why would the Lakers need the smokescreen though? They have the second pick and it's clear as all day light that Towns is the first pick. I don't see why the Knicks would give anybody a promise.

Maybe they're getting the Kings pick at #6 along with Cousins and giving up the #2 and Julius Randle? Just a thought.

Allanfan20 wrote:

anrst wrote:i dont' get why, even if you get a gurantee, why would any of these kids and their agents trust it?

Yup. It doesn't strike me as a savvy business decision to cancel all workouts when you're a questionable foreign player, when you've been playing in China no less.

I don't know why he would do that either, but I think we should expect that Mudiay will play for one of the teams in the top 4 because otherwise it makes absolutely no sense.

MaTT4281 wrote:Thoughts? We're 8 hours away from the draft and I'm believing we've promised our pick to Mudiay, Porzingis, and are silently targeting Herzonja, only to trade him for picks 6 and 7. I can't take it!

Mudiay's been my personal pick since the season ended, provided the top 3 go as expected. His shot needs to be worked on, but I think the LA video spooked too many people. His athleticism, size, passing and driving are all in his favor. He could very well end up being the best player to come out of this draft (a claim probably 5 or 6 other guys can make as well).

How are we getting picks 6 and 7??? Really?

crzymdups wrote:I would be fine if the Knicks decided they liked Mudiay.

I would more than fine if the Sixers decided they liked Mudiay.

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To me Russell has that arrogence and premedonna/drama I do not want as a ROOKIE, while Mudiay seems to have the willingness to want to improve and wants to create for others as a TRUE BIG PG
Shooting is a skill that Mudiay can learn, while his physical body/strength can not be taught, he needs to work on his quickness and speed and will take time but I think he will reach it if you allow him to make the mistakes and learn from it like Wall did
I do believe that Russell could be a bust if he goes in to a wrong situation, like if JR Smith is his mentor in NYC

Prior to "traditional PG's, Deron WIlliams was once cosidered a BIG PG that could score and facilitate prior to him hitting his 30's"

Till Physical beasts like Westbrook, Derrick Rose, John Wall,
While Mudiay could have the physical abilities to make him a DEFENSIVE TOP TIER DEFENDER that Westbrook has gotten away from despite his ability to be a lock down defender, though last year he was force to do so late in the season with injuries

Assuming the consesious TOP 3
If we stay at 4, I hope we acquire Mudiay or KP

What all these rooks must understand is, The NBA is a 82 long game season, and after that the playoffs is when it really counts and when the game changes with adjustments, effort, schemes
If lucky, by year 2-3, they will unfold their true talent if they WORK HARD to develop their skills and body, stay confidence, hungry

Steph Curry and Lebron James PUTS A LOT OF WORK in their craft, taking practice/training very seriously, and it pays off
It can NOT STOP, you have to want to improve on both strengths and weakness's, and even in weight room and films

Physical talent is great but if you add in HIGH IQ, WORK ETHIC, ability to communicate with others, it has a multiple affect/effect and if you get multiple talents like OKC did, it shows

Nick Collison *WORK ETHIC played a role*

Durant
Westbrook
Harden
Ibaka

Reggie Jackson
Jeff Green *after he left OKC, not being with those guys, that was the difference in his improvement in reaching his ceiling along with his setback with his heart surgery*