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BRIGGS
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6/23/2015  9:38 AM
Sometimes out of site out of mind but maybe viewing it will remind some that he really does have a potential to be a Dirk like player
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6/23/2015  9:49 AM
link?????
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/23/2015  9:57 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Sometimes out of site out of mind but maybe viewing it will remind some that he really does have a potential to be a Dirk like player

I'm pretty sure everyone on here remembers Kaminsky especially with all the latest rumors of Phil maybe taking him at #4. We know what he can do for a big man and what he can't do. I'm a fan but as i've been saying I would rather we trade down a few spots and get another asset and take him at 7 or 8. He fits the trianglegreat with what he does on the offensive side of the ball.

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6/23/2015  11:38 AM
Where is the link?
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6/23/2015  11:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2015  11:43 AM
http://www.nba.com/kings/kaminsky-mcconnell-court-workout

Does not show anything different that we didn't already know, IMO. There were also other prospects there, so it was not all Kaminsky.

Would have liked to see some defensive drills to look at his footwork, or some different moves in the post. I have no doubts about his offensive game, but would like to see the other things he can do, especially since it's been documented that he's working hard to maximize his athletic ability.

Might have a little more definition in his arms, but it doesn't look like he's trying to put on any weight at this time. Still showing the smooth J, maybe his release is quicker, but that's a bit hard for me to actually tell.

I'm someone who has no issue with him going at 4 if Phil believes he is worth it, but you can probably get him a couple of picks later if you trade down- so this would be the way to go, especially if that 6/7 for 4 rumor has any truth to it.

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6/23/2015  12:00 PM
I don't think I would take a big at 4 unless it's Okafor or Towns. For me it's Mudiay/Russell/Winslow with the pick.
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6/23/2015  12:24 PM
Vmart wrote:I don't think I would take a big at 4 unless it's Okafor or Towns. For me it's Mudiay/Russell/Winslow with the pick.

I was assuming Russell was taken.

Don't think he will take Mudiay, IMO, but could see Winslow.

You'll get offers if Porzingis is still at 4, and if Phil does not want him he has to trade out, especially if we still get a high pick in return.

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6/23/2015  12:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2015  12:44 PM
Vmart wrote:I don't think I would take a big at 4 unless it's Okafor or Towns. For me it's Mudiay/Russell/Winslow with the pick.

I'm looking for a good player like Frank in a a draft pick swap down a 2016 1 A high 2015 2 or low 1 and a good young vet. I want a LOT. I think any player could be had at 7 that can be had at 4 other than porzingis . I also like hezonja but I doubt the knicks do


I think the biggest potential bang for your buck is rd 2 low 1. If we could swap down to 7 and pick up 2 additional 2015 assets and a 2016 that would be beneficial

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6/23/2015  12:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2015  12:50 PM

lets go kaminsky

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6/23/2015  12:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2015  12:52 PM
wh4t wrote:

lets go kaminsky

WOW!

Sounds like Jackson likes him.

Classic fake "injury shutdown," IMO.

Supposedly he does not want to go to Philly, and Givony is saying that Hinkie would have trouble trading him without a physical.

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6/23/2015  1:40 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
wh4t wrote:

lets go kaminsky

WOW!

Sounds like Jackson likes him.

Classic fake "injury shutdown," IMO.

Supposedly he does not want to go to Philly, and Givony is saying that Hinkie would have trouble trading him without a physical.

Thats funny because on his twitter he said he was shooting that night.

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6/23/2015  1:46 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:I don't think I would take a big at 4 unless it's Okafor or Towns. For me it's Mudiay/Russell/Winslow with the pick.

I'm looking for a good player like Frank in a a draft pick swap down a 2016 1 A high 2015 2 or low 1 and a good young vet. I want a LOT. I think any player could be had at 7 that can be had at 4 other than porzingis . I also like hezonja but I doubt the knicks do


I think the biggest potential bang for your buck is rd 2 low 1. If we could swap down to 7 and pick up 2 additional 2015 assets and a 2016 that would be beneficial


Oh my goodness i'd be all over that. If we could trade down to 6/7/8 while picking up 2 more later picks in this draft and a 2016 i'd be ecstatic and i'd be cool with Kaminsky at one of those picks.
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6/23/2015  5:49 PM
If the Knicks trade down, I can see them taking Kaminsky as a system fit. I could see them pairing him with Monroe. They would still need to shore up their perimeter defense if they can acquire extra picks and/or use some of their remaining cap room. Hearing the amount of dollars some of these free agents are asking for is a little scary. Good, solid players like Matthews, etc. asking for upwards of $15m.
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6/23/2015  9:17 PM
The names potentially available at 4, Kaminsky, Winslow, Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonga, among others, none of them really stand out head and shoulders above the rest right now IMO. I can see Phil picking any one of them and find a good reason (or more) why his decision is a good one. None of them are a lock to have an impact the way the consensus top 3 are projected to IMO. I can see why Phil would consider trading the pick. Wouldn't be too hard to screw this pick up given the choices. I hope he makes the pick anyway unless its an amazing deal.
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6/23/2015  9:28 PM
GustavBahler wrote:The names potentially available at 4, Kaminsky, Winslow, Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonga, among others, none of them really stand out head and shoulders above the rest right now IMO. I can see Phil picking any one of them and find a good reason (or more) why his decision is a good one. None of them are a lock to have an impact the way the consensus top 3 are projected to IMO. I can see why Phil would consider trading the pick. Wouldn't be too hard to screw this pick up given the choices. I hope he makes the pick anyway unless its an amazing deal.

I like Kaminsky BUT I DO NOT want him at 4. The whole time I said I wanted Kaminsky was tied to trading down where we get a multi laden asset deal. The ONLY player IMHO that you can take at 4 is Porzingis OR Hezonja. EVERY other player after that could be at 4 or could be at 9. We have the shtty spot but we must play the right game. Draft Porzingis as best long term prospect--a team will pay up BIG for him but we must be willing to

A. Actually play a hard game of chicken to the point where we take him at 4.

B Be head fast in what we want and stay with it in a position of power

C Be willing to say hey we have a great piece here if I dont get my price Im shaping him into my 5 for the next 15-18 years.

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6/23/2015  9:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:The names potentially available at 4, Kaminsky, Winslow, Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonga, among others, none of them really stand out head and shoulders above the rest right now IMO. I can see Phil picking any one of them and find a good reason (or more) why his decision is a good one. None of them are a lock to have an impact the way the consensus top 3 are projected to IMO. I can see why Phil would consider trading the pick. Wouldn't be too hard to screw this pick up given the choices. I hope he makes the pick anyway unless its an amazing deal.

I like Kaminsky BUT I DO NOT want him at 4. The whole time I said I wanted Kaminsky was tied to trading down where we get a multi laden asset deal. The ONLY player IMHO that you can take at 4 is Porzingis OR Hezonja. EVERY other player after that could be at 4 or could be at 9. We have the shtty spot but we must play the right game. Draft Porzingis as best long term prospect--a team will pay up BIG for him but we must be willing to

A. Actually play a hard game of chicken to the point where we take him at 4.

B Be head fast in what we want and stay with it in a position of power

C Be willing to say hey we have a great piece here if I dont get my price Im shaping him into my 5 for the next 15-18 years.

I have to say that I can understand Phil NOT doing that. He has 2 bigs in this draft that he could pick that he knows what he's getting and that it would have a net positive impact on the team. Kaminsky and WCS are those bigs. They're ready and developed enough that he knows how to integrate them and that he can depend on what they bring to the table. Kaminsky doesn't have much upside left but WCS may have a bit more than anticipated. It's not guaranteed that WCS will exceed his offensive potential but he will most assuredly be an elite defensive player that this team needs.

With KrisP Phil really can't know for sure that he'll get to the potential that people put on him. He can shoot and is pretty athletic but lots of players are that. It doesn't mean that he'll actually reach the lofty potential that some see in him. KrisP is YEARS away from developing into the player some see he could become. This just may not be the right place and time for that kind of prospect. Sure if you're Minnesota or some other small city team that can afford to wait, but not NY.

We can't even be patient with THJ or any other young player we have. I'm positive that NY fans won't be willing to wait on KrisP to develop. For that reason I say we can't take KrisP at #4.

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6/24/2015  9:41 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:http://www.nba.com/kings/kaminsky-mcconnell-court-workout

Does not show anything different that we didn't already know, IMO. There were also other prospects there, so it was not all Kaminsky.

Would have liked to see some defensive drills to look at his footwork, or some different moves in the post. I have no doubts about his offensive game, but would like to see the other things he can do, especially since it's been documented that he's working hard to maximize his athletic ability.

Might have a little more definition in his arms, but it doesn't look like he's trying to put on any weight at this time. Still showing the smooth J, maybe his release is quicker, but that's a bit hard for me to actually tell.

I'm someone who has no issue with him going at 4 if Phil believes he is worth it, but you can probably get him a couple of picks later if you trade down- so this would be the way to go, especially if that 6/7 for 4 rumor has any truth to it.

Hey Walt--Kaminsky has been working on his athletic mobility for 8 weeks now. I think he was already a quality defender--even Jay Bilas said it. You start adding in 4-5 inches in vertical increased explosion and lateral quickness--and you know he will continue the same standard of improvement --he should continue to get better and better. Kaminsky is ALREADY good to great at ALL skills at 7-1. hes a bal;lhandler hes a shot blocker hes a passer hes a shooter hes a post player hes a good teammate hes a winner???? He fits the triangle hes tyhe closest thing to a young Pau Gasol that is available --I think Porzingis is much more of a hybrid pure 5--meaning I like Franks MOBILE 4/5 ability MORE than Porzingis(whos ultimate bread and butter is a post 5. Porzingis doesnt move as well as Frank at the 4 position he doenst handle the ball as well and hes no passer. Porzingis is a 5 man. Frank more versatile.

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