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NYSportsGuys5
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6/22/2015  1:19 PM
Would highly appreciate if y'all can give my piece a read on this Monday after Father's Day and as always, please feel free to leave your thoughts below!


http://newyorksportsguys.com/2015/06/21/why-mudiay-or-porzingis-is-the-right-pick-for-the-new-york-knicks/
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6/22/2015  1:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2015  1:29 PM
Case for Porzingis:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=51178&page=1

Case for Mudiay:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50845&page=1
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6/22/2015  1:32 PM
http://newyorksportsguys.com/2015/06/21/why-mudiay-or-porzingis-is-the-right-pick-for-the-new-york-knicks/

Good read. I think both Mudiay and KrisP are quality prospects. I think they are under consideration. A lot will depend on what kind of offers the Knicks receive for the #4 pick if Towns, Okafor and Russell are gone. At that point I think they have to look at alternative plans. I think a lot of the players after that top 3 are a lot closer than some believe. You can still get a very good player after #4. If Phil can turn that pick into more assets I think he must consider it.
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6/22/2015  1:49 PM
nixluva wrote:http://newyorksportsguys.com/2015/06/21/why-mudiay-or-porzingis-is-the-right-pick-for-the-new-york-knicks/

Good read. I think both Mudiay and KrisP are quality prospects. I think they are under consideration. A lot will depend on what kind of offers the Knicks receive for the #4 pick if Towns, Okafor and Russell are gone. At that point I think they have to look at alternative plans. I think a lot of the players after that top 3 are a lot closer than some believe. You can still get a very good player after #4. If Phil can turn that pick into more assets I think he must consider it.

Pretty much agree with this: if we're going to trade down for better value, then who we pick at #4 is n/a.

However, if we're making the pick, the reason for taking Mudiay/Zinger is simple...TAKE THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, regardless of fit or need. Pick for talent and reconfigure roster as needed via trades, FA, etc.
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6/22/2015  2:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2015  2:02 PM
Moonangie wrote:
nixluva wrote:http://newyorksportsguys.com/2015/06/21/why-mudiay-or-porzingis-is-the-right-pick-for-the-new-york-knicks/

Good read. I think both Mudiay and KrisP are quality prospects. I think they are under consideration. A lot will depend on what kind of offers the Knicks receive for the #4 pick if Towns, Okafor and Russell are gone. At that point I think they have to look at alternative plans. I think a lot of the players after that top 3 are a lot closer than some believe. You can still get a very good player after #4. If Phil can turn that pick into more assets I think he must consider it.

Pretty much agree with this: if we're going to trade down for better value, then who we pick at #4 is n/a.

However, if we're making the pick, the reason for taking Mudiay/Zinger is simple...TAKE THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, regardless of fit or need. Pick for talent and reconfigure roster as needed via trades, FA, etc.

Mudiay/Zinger are the best players with upside (BPU)

Winslow/WCS are the best players available (BPA)

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6/22/2015  2:04 PM
I hope Philly takes Russell so that he is off the table -- prefer a choice of Mudiay and Zingy.

I think I take Porzingis.
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6/22/2015  2:08 PM
LivingLegend wrote:I hope Philly takes Russell so that he is off the table -- prefer a choice of Mudiay and Zingy.

I think I take Porzingis.

I take Mudiay. He's the Triangle combo guard we need (a la MJ and Kobe). Next season, after Mudiay establishes his leadership, we trade Melo for assets/picks. But I'd be happy if we take Zinger, too. He's a project with serious upside. Probably send him to Euro league for one season.
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6/22/2015  2:11 PM
Hold the phone, are there seriously people on this forum who would take Mudiay over Russell?
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6/22/2015  2:18 PM
TPercy wrote:Hold the phone, are there seriously people on this forum who would take Mudiay over Russell?

?????????

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6/22/2015  2:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2015  2:26 PM
blkexec wrote:
TPercy wrote:Hold the phone, are there seriously people on this forum who would take Mudiay over Russell?

?????????

Wasting our pick on a guard who can't shoot dosen't make any sense. We might as well try and get reggie jackson or tyreke evans for that matter.

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6/22/2015  2:54 PM
TPercy wrote:Hold the phone, are there seriously people on this forum who would take Mudiay over Russell?

Yup. Most analysts had Mudiay ahead of Russel all season so it's not some far fetched idea. History shows that Mudiay can work on his j and improve it (all reports are that he's a gym rat). Russels not going to learn how to be a better athlete.
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6/22/2015  2:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2015  2:57 PM
TPercy wrote:Hold the phone, are there seriously people on this forum who would take Mudiay over Russell?

No, way. This is all assuming the big 3 are off the board (Towns/OK4/Russell). It's about BPA at #4.

In response to "he can't shoot it" claims...It's an obvious concern, but one mitigated by the success similar players have had in "fixing" their jump shots post-draft (e.g., John Wall). I am willing to take a flyer on him regardless of his "issues" with jump shot. He will be fine.
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6/22/2015  3:21 PM
I think I will be depressed if we end up trading down.
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6/22/2015  3:24 PM
franco12 wrote:I think I will be depressed if we end up trading down.

I was depressed when we won those STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPID games.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/22/2015  6:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2015  6:07 PM
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http://newyorksportsguys.com/2015/06/21/why-mudiay-or-porzingis-is-the-right-pick-for-the-new-york-knicks/
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6/22/2015  6:56 PM
mudiay has more potential than russell if he can fix his jumper
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6/22/2015  8:48 PM
jbeachboy wrote:mudiay has more potential than russell if he can fix his jumper

If my grandmother had wheels she'd been a wagon

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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6/23/2015  11:54 PM
jbeachboy wrote:mudiay has more potential than russell if he can fix his jumper
His J is just fine and the rest of his game is superb. Russell will be a good player, Muldiay could be a great player.
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