There's a chance Okafor winds up better than him in the end, you can't predict these things... but it's not even really a debate anymore. Towns is 100% the number 1 pick.

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

It's his video..they put out a video of him shooting threes and everyone went crazy..They think he will be doing it in games..Even Stein put out a video shooting threes..You would think that would wise people up..Its why they are now going nuts over the Euro kid..

All year of watching them play and u get no pulse..Put out a 4 min video knocking down jumpers and it changes the world..

Towns didn't have one go to move in the post in college..NOT ONE..After the video, some one on this site claims he is the best center to come out in 30 years..

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

It's his video..they put out a video of him shooting threes and everyone went crazy..They think he will be doing it in games..Even Stein put out a video shooting threes..You would think that would wise people up..Its why they are now going nuts over the Euro kid..

All year of watching them play and u get no pulse..Put out a 4 min video knocking down jumpers and it changes the world..

So true.

Did you watch Towns play against Notre Dame or Wisconsin or Florida or Auburn? He is absolutely the real deal. Kentucky used a platoon system - but there's a reason that they have four players who scored 10ppg this year who are being considered as lottery picks - Towns, Stein, Booker, Lyles.

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

Very good question....I think Towns is #1 by default. This isn't a draft where the top player just stands out. This draft is very hard to predict who the franchise players are, because it's purely based on potential. Which is why Porzingis, Turner, Kaminsky etc.....all have the ability to be the best player in this draft.

Towns has the most potential because he's a legit 2 way player. But I tend to question his ability to play defense without getting into foul trouble. Stein has that ability, which is why he was the consistant anchor for that defense. But Towns for the most part, was on the bench in foul trouble.

Ok4 clearly put up the most dominating stats in college. But his lack of defense put a dent in his stock value. Then Towns video only locked him in as the top pick. But there's really no clear top pick in this draft. Russell has as much potential as Porzingis to be the best player. This is why pick #4 or any pick in the 1st round is critical to any franchise. I believe this draft will have some of the most franchise type players up and down the 1st round, regardless of the mock draft ranking.

Turners latest video only proves my point.....There's no such thing as a reach in this draft, because almost anybody in the 1st round are interchangeable. I think Payne might be the best PG, and he's currently ranked 3rd or 4th as far as PG ranking. Same with Stein....If Kentucky was really holding him back offensively, and he turns out to be a 15 or more scorer.....He could be the best player.

It's wide open in my opinion....

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

It's his video..they put out a video of him shooting threes and everyone went crazy..They think he will be doing it in games..Even Stein put out a video shooting threes..You would think that would wise people up..Its why they are now going nuts over the Euro kid..

All year of watching them play and u get no pulse..Put out a 4 min video knocking down jumpers and it changes the world..

So true.

Did you watch Towns play against Notre Dame or Wisconsin or Florida or Auburn? He is absolutely the real deal. Kentucky used a platoon system - but there's a reason that they have four players who scored 10ppg this year who are being considered as lottery picks - Towns, Stein, Booker, Lyles.

I watched many of his games as I wanted to see the difference between Okafor and Towns. While I feel Okafor is the better of the two. I always maintained that Towns will be a good pro. When I watched I watched a player that was heavily protected by system. When I watched OKafor I felt he was the system. His team was geared around his prowess. Kentucky not so much around Towns. For Okafor it was you have to stay in the game you can't get into foul trouble. You can't be excessively aggressive on defense. On Kentucy you couldn't focus on Towns alone they had waves of players so he could be aggressive on defense he could fly around and take a chance. In the end you have to ask yourself do you want a Rasheed Wallace type or a Tim Duncan type.

Rasheed is not a good comparison, because he never truly wanted the spotlight.

crzymdups wrote:It is funny that the same people who are quick to look past Towns' 10ppg and Porzingis's 11ppg will make a huge deal of Stein's 9ppg.

But that's because of his defense.

Knicks1969 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Panos wrote:I am surprised that I'm seeing zero debate about Towns being the number 1 pick in the draft.
After Okafor being the consensus #1 pick all year, why is there no question that Towns goes first?
I admit I am no college ball expert, far from it, but it didn't seem that Towns was dominant enough to be far and away #1 without a doubt. IS everyone so sure he'll be the best player out of this draft?
Hollah back

It's his video..they put out a video of him shooting threes and everyone went crazy..They think he will be doing it in games..Even Stein put out a video shooting threes..You would think that would wise people up..Its why they are now going nuts over the Euro kid..

All year of watching them play and u get no pulse..Put out a 4 min video knocking down jumpers and it changes the world..

So true.

Did you watch Towns play against Notre Dame or Wisconsin or Florida or Auburn? He is absolutely the real deal. Kentucky used a platoon system - but there's a reason that they have four players who scored 10ppg this year who are being considered as lottery picks - Towns, Stein, Booker, Lyles.

I watched many of his games as I wanted to see the difference between Okafor and Towns. While I feel Okafor is the better of the two. I always maintained that Towns will be a good pro. When I watched I watched a player that was heavily protected by system. When I watched OKafor I felt he was the system. His team was geared around his prowess. Kentucky not so much around Towns. For Okafor it was you have to stay in the game you can't get into foul trouble. You can't be excessively aggressive on defense. On Kentucy you couldn't focus on Towns alone they had waves of players so he could be aggressive on defense he could fly around and take a chance. In the end you have to ask yourself do you want a Rasheed Wallace type or a Tim Duncan type.

Rasheed is not a good comparison, because he never truly wanted the spotlight.

Did you see Rasheed when he played in Portland? He was IMHO one of the best PFs he was hit threes he was posting players up. He was a force he was one of the most talented PFs in the game. He was hitting threes at that time he was pioneering the stretch 4. He was one of the best team players also. His problem was his propensity to be a hot head and pick up Techs.

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Rasheed is not a good comparison, because he never truly wanted the spotlight.

Did you see Rasheed when he played in Portland? He was IMHO one of the best PFs he was hit threes he was posting players up. He was a force he was one of the most talented PFs in the game. He was hitting threes at that time he was pioneering the stretch 4. He was one of the best team players also. His problem was his propensity to be a hot head and pick up Techs.

I sort of agree that Sheed didn't want to be great. He didn't have that hunger some guys do. He made his money and was happy with that.

Hard to be able to tell if Towns has that fire yet. I think Okafor does have that fire.

Agree...it's clear what you get with Ok4.....And history shows when a guys dominates college ball, he usually turns out pretty good at the next level.