nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and he hit the table for him--I think the Knicks would listen. After years of listening to the players talk about moves usually they have it wrong. In this case I would hope Carmelo takes the time to really study Porzingis--give him a call and talk to him. Workout with him. Because if melo was really tight on it if he laid down the gambit here--I think its possible we could get him.

Were NOT winning the title next year--he knows that. The best case scenario is a starting gate and why wouldnt he want the best player--not the best role player or best one way player--but overall the best long term talent? POrzingis played well in the pros already. Im starting to think if he and Hezonja played in the US they both be in the top 3 or 4. Think about it Porzingis is a starting 7-2 C/PF for Florida and he avg 21-9-4-2 where does he go in this draft?

OK BRIGGS you're really getting crazy with these scenarios. We don't really know if KrisP will be there and we can't control that, so it's a moot point to want Melo to be buddying up with him. What would be the point?

As for not winning the title. Melo isn't thinking long term. He's trying to get to a title next year if possible. He's not going to just accept that the team can't contend next year or the year after. He's only got so many years left. He's not gonna care about 3 or 5 years down the road.

Nixluva the Knicks have NO chance of winning a title next year--we just won 18 games--barely. Come on now your a Grandpa now show the wisdom!

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and he hit the table for him--I think the Knicks would listen. After years of listening to the players talk about moves usually they have it wrong. In this case I would hope Carmelo takes the time to really study Porzingis--give him a call and talk to him. Workout with him. Because if melo was really tight on it if he laid down the gambit here--I think its possible we could get him.

Were NOT winning the title next year--he knows that. The best case scenario is a starting gate and why wouldnt he want the best player--not the best role player or best one way player--but overall the best long term talent? POrzingis played well in the pros already. Im starting to think if he and Hezonja played in the US they both be in the top 3 or 4. Think about it Porzingis is a starting 7-2 C/PF for Florida and he avg 21-9-4-2 where does he go in this draft?

OK BRIGGS you're really getting crazy with these scenarios. We don't really know if KrisP will be there and we can't control that, so it's a moot point to want Melo to be buddying up with him. What would be the point?

As for not winning the title. Melo isn't thinking long term. He's trying to get to a title next year if possible. He's not going to just accept that the team can't contend next year or the year after. He's only got so many years left. He's not gonna care about 3 or 5 years down the road.

Nixluva the Knicks have NO chance of winning a title next year--we just won 18 games--barely. Come on now your a Grandpa now show the wisdom!

It's not about whether the team realistically has a chance to win the Title next year. Melo isn't going to just accept that there's no chance and go for a long term project. You're asking him to just waste dwindling years of his career. That's why he made the statement about 19 yr old PG's. He's only going to be concerned with the few years he has left and hoping the Knicks put the best product together that they can. That's how he's likely to be thinking.

crzymdups wrote:If we're going by who Melo wants, I think the list would be: Okafor, Winslow, trade for a vet.

aka DON'T LISTEN TO MELO

I just want the Knicks and melo to open their mind--it seems like some fans are just against drafting someone from outside the US without really looking at it here.

wargames wrote:After Weiss, Barg, and too a lesser extent Gallo the idea of the knicks picking a tall, skinny European player at #4 will get the knicks slaughtered in the paper.

S-L-A-U-G-H-T-E-R-E-D!!!

For Phil to likely do that he would have to beyond a shadow of doubt think Porzingis is the BPA and that they can get him up to NBA speed quickly. So if he picks him at #4 I would have very high expectations for Porzingis.

there would be lots of boos. lots and lots. that shouldn't factor into the Knicks thinking though.

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

wargames wrote:After Weiss, Barg, and too a lesser extent Gallo the idea of the knicks picking a tall, skinny European player at #4 will get the knicks slaughtered in the paper.

S-L-A-U-G-H-T-E-R-E-D!!!

For Phil to likely do that he would have to beyond a shadow of doubt think Porzingis is the BPA and that they can get him up to NBA speed quickly. So if he picks him at #4 I would have very high expectations for Porzingis.

there would be lots of boos. lots and lots. that shouldn't factor into the Knicks thinking though.

It will though. At the end of the day Phil can't want his draft grade with the fans to be low unless he knows Porzingis is that dude. This is the summer where the majority of Fans are giving him the benefit of the doubt to prove himself. If he picks a guy whose name the fans can't spell let alone pronounce who spends a bunch of next season on the bench because he is getting abused by because he is too skinny and thats it for his time in NY.

The guys who go to the draft are idiots. They'll probably boo whoever is picked unless it's maybe Mudiay or something. If Phil is letting that factor into his thinking, he's wrong.

All those idiots at the draft do are make Knicks fans everywhere look bad. It's one reason the rest of the league hates us.

wargames wrote:After Weiss, Barg, and too a lesser extent Gallo the idea of the knicks picking a tall, skinny European player at #4 will get the knicks slaughtered in the paper.

S-L-A-U-G-H-T-E-R-E-D!!!

For Phil to likely do that he would have to beyond a shadow of doubt think Porzingis is the BPA and that they can get him up to NBA speed quickly. So if he picks him at #4 I would have very high expectations for Porzingis.

Phil has been slaughtered most of the year- at this point I don't think he gives a ****. Thats the problem idiot fans have, they cry loudly about everything so eventually they just get tuned out

Nalod wrote:THat step back move Zing did in his work out for a 7-1 guy had me thinking............

As far as Melo buddy love we just have to see if Phil panders to him or is building. The whole
"Soft euro weis" thing is dumb. We have bombed out on plenty of American players over the years as well.

This Euro sht is stupid. Bottom line if he played at a school in the US he wouldve dominated and maybe be pick #1.