Knicks In:#7/#12/Trey Burke
Knicks out:#4/Jose Calderon/THjr

Nuggets In:Jose Calderon/#4
Nuggets Out:Ty Lawson/#7

Jazz In:Ty Lawson/THjr
Jazz Out:#12/Trey Burke

with #7 the knicks can pick Winslow, stanley johnson, or Henzonja and with #12 they can choose from Trey Lyles, Kaminsky, Looney, or Payne. All of those players are players they've been attached too. Plus Trey Burke could be a upgrade at PG or another trade piece. #7, and #12 for #4 is a fair deal. Thats two players for a little less than a mil more in starting salary than the #4 pick would make. So Cap Wise its also a smart move. Hell just to make the casuals feel good Denver can throw in the Portland first rounder that is 1-14 protected. The odds of it not becoming a second rounder is low because if LMA leaves Portland is going to immediately Tank.... but it will look good in the newspapers and could be flipped for something else.

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:I guess it depends on just how bad Orlando wants KrisP. I'm not sure they would view that kind of deal as worth it for one spot.

No need to identify them, Briggs, they will end up coming to us as we move toward the date of the draft.

But for once, we would be in control. I've been making the case for Orlando moving up to get him for a few days. Maybe they even jump over us to deal with another team...who knows.

Thought I heard that Atlanta wanted him last year.

I would be down for keeping him, but Phil has an idea of what he wants, so...

We, obviously, have no control as to whether he will be available.

I still say there is a very good chance he gets picked before us, and that would mean OK4 or Russell.

Not a bad deal for the Knicks.

Knicks are actually in a good spot. Everyone else has to make the tough call and we are just there to catch whoever falls to us and most likely those players will be desirable for teams behind us. Someone is gonna be calling Phil with offers.

BRIGGS wrote:Patrick Ewing at 20 years old 7 feet 220

Yeah but he was Patrick Ewing..

BRIGGS wrote:Id keep Porzingis at 4 but I know the Knicks won't. So we need to identify who does and what would make sense for the Knicks. I think Oraldno is the team that makes the most sense since they are 5 and tried to get him last year.

If he does indeed slip to 4 they should grab him EVEN if they want someone else. If we take him at 4 and Orlando is hemorrhaging for him at 5 we can ask for 2 #1(2016 and 2018) and then we can swap to 5. We need to be smart here and keep the cards in

If the Knicks feel Porzingis can eventually be that good and he's there, I hope they do just keep him and develop him.

I'd prefer Russell to magically slip and feel a lot better about Stein in the short term at least, but if Phil and his team thinks Porzingis is that good and he's the pick at 4... I hope they just keep him.

I want one blue chip talent from this draft, not an assortment of decent assets. Even if I don't believe it's the right pick, if they believe it's the right pick, I hope they just go with it and develop who they think is the 4th best player in this draft.

edit: however, you're right - if they think Winslow or Stein or Mudiay is the 4th best player, they should absolutely talk to Orlando and Denver and Sacramento and see how bad they want Porzingis

Knicks1969 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Patrick Ewing at 20 years old 7 feet 220

Ewing was not a true 7 footer. He was not taller then 6'10"

oh really? tell us more ms.cleo

BRIGGS wrote:Id keep Porzingis at 4 but I know the Knicks won't. So we need to identify who does and what would make sense for the Knicks. I think Oraldno is the team that makes the most sense since they are 5 and tried to get him last year.

If he does indeed slip to 4 they should grab him EVEN if they want someone else. If we take him at 4 and Orlando is hemorrhaging for him at 5 we can ask for 2 #1(2016 and 2018) and then we can swap to 5. We need to be smart here and keep the cards in

wargames wrote:I feel Porzingis is more important because he fills up a big ? mark on the top #5 mock. I can't see LA or Philly not going for one of the agreed upon top #3 guys. Even if Russell goes to LA, How does Philly say no to Okafor with Embiid possibly out again next year? However Orlando would love Porzingis and are so close to the knicks at #4 I doubt they would be willing to give up anything substantial to move 1 pick up. I am pretty sure Porzingis would be taken #5 by the magic. They are a young team who can spend the next 2-3 seasons letting him grow and he would fit great next to Vucevic. At #6 I am also pretty certain WCS would be taken because Demarcus Cousins loves him and they have that UK connection. So at #7

Knicks In:#7/#12/Trey Burke
Knicks out:#4/Jose Calderon/THjr

Nuggets In:Jose Calderon/#4
Nuggets Out:Ty Lawson/#7

Jazz In:Ty Lawson/THjr
Jazz Out:#12/Trey Burke

with #7 the knicks can pick Winslow, stanley johnson, or Henzonja and with #12 they can choose from Trey Lyles, Kaminsky, Looney, or Payne. All of those players are players they've been attached too. Plus Trey Burke could be a upgrade at PG or another trade piece. #7, and #12 for #4 is a fair deal. Thats two players for a little less than a mil more in starting salary than the #4 pick would make. So Cap Wise its also a smart move. Hell just to make the casuals feel good Denver can throw in the Portland first rounder that is 1-14 protected. The odds of it not becoming a second rounder is low because if LMA leaves Portland is going to immediately Tank.... but it will look good in the newspapers and could be flipped for something else.