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mreinman
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6/16/2015  11:58 PM
please be a man and congratulate GS tomorrow even though you must be all broken up
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/17/2015  12:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2015  12:12 AM
mreinman wrote:please be a man and congratulate GS tomorrow even though you must be all broken up

why would Phil do that? is it normal for opposing GM's to congratulate a team on winning a championship?

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6/17/2015  12:13 AM
I'm sure he will call up Kerr.
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6/17/2015  12:17 AM
CAVS weren't a great example of what Phil is talking about. They were missing players but also not the kind of roster Phil is looking to build. GS is far from unbeatable. A well built team can beat them. That's gonna be his goal here.
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6/17/2015  1:01 AM
Jackson had the right idea (Kerr offer to coach Knicks)

And though Phil J. fl_uck up not getting more for Chandler,
JR Smith and Shump in deals.

But lets not dump Phil yet 100%,
Shump and JR played their butts out of NY and had very very little value before
being sent to nice Cleveland.

Ingrates JR Smith and Iman are is they were too immature to win yet.

Maybe one day, they are with greatest player on planet in LBJ. If they cant win it there 1 day
the ex Knicks wont ever win anywhere!

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6/17/2015  8:23 AM
GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.
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6/17/2015  9:02 AM
How is this on Phil? Phil offered Kerr a contract he turned it down for the better built team not Phils fault there. Phil saw Kerr's talent as coach who saw that. GS only saw it when Phil offered him a contract. Fisher is a very good coach he got his inexperience out of the way with a talentless team and to me he did good but not good enough to better the odds. But I'm confident that Phil knows talent.
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6/17/2015  10:44 AM
Warriors caught so many breaks with opposing teams injuries- Conely and Allen vs the Griz, Beverley vs the Rockets, and then Kyrie and Love vs the Cavs. Steph was great, but he lucked out in not having to face any PGs or top rate defenders
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6/17/2015  10:56 AM
smackeddog wrote:Warriors caught so many breaks with opposing teams injuries- Conely and Allen vs the Griz, Beverley vs the Rockets, and then Kyrie and Love vs the Cavs. Steph was great, but he lucked out in not having to face any PGs or top rate defenders

BINGO!!!! The stars aligned very nice for them and they seized the opportunity. Also did not have to go against the Spurs who faced a good Clipper team who also started to fall apart after their series.
GS is young and guys like Dlee and Iggy stepped up and were solid! they were healthy! If they were starters perhaps not.

Im not taking anything away from GS but really I don't see them as a "Great team" historically. Good record and are the Champs with the MVP! Great job no doubt!
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6/17/2015  10:58 AM
wargames wrote:
mreinman wrote:please be a man and congratulate GS tomorrow even though you must be all broken up

why would Phil do that? is it normal for opposing GM's to congratulate a team on winning a championship?


I'm pretty sure he's referring to the tweet where Phil said teams focusing on 3s won't win the playoffs
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6/17/2015  11:00 AM
smackeddog wrote:Warriors caught so many breaks with opposing teams injuries- Conely and Allen vs the Griz, Beverley vs the Rockets, and then Kyrie and Love vs the Cavs. Steph was great, but he lucked out in not having to face any PGs or top rate defenders

Your right, but thats what championships are about, catching a break and taking advantage of it.

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6/17/2015  11:01 AM
I think there are always exceptions and GS was one this year.
Its not a model I think sustains. Curry was amazing this year and you go to your strength. Amazing shooter!
Teams with that many shooters can do it.
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6/17/2015  11:12 AM
What Golden States amaze me is that their shooters can shoot under pressure. I have a thought that this kind of jump shooting team would fall off when they went deep in playoff or faced tremendous defense teams. That was why I thought Mem could win that series.

How to make these guys keeping this level of shooting under pressure, I think the credit may go to Kerr. Remember Mark Jackson got the almost same team.
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6/17/2015  11:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2015  11:31 AM
His exact tweet a few weeks ago was, “NBA analysts give me some diagnostics on how 3pt oriented teams are faring this playoffs…seriously, how’s it goink [sic]?”
I guess the answer is VERY well! GS and Cleveland were the two teams that took the most 3s per game in the playoffs. They were literally #1 (GS) and 2 (Cleveland). I can't imagine what the odds were of him being this wrong! He seems to find a way to be more wrong than anyone could ever imagine.
BTW, the other two conference finals teams were 3 and 4.
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6/17/2015  11:27 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Warriors caught so many breaks with opposing teams injuries- Conely and Allen vs the Griz, Beverley vs the Rockets, and then Kyrie and Love vs the Cavs. Steph was great, but he lucked out in not having to face any PGs or top rate defenders

Your right, but thats what championships are about, catching a break and taking advantage of it.

Yeah, a break- not 5!

Hats off to them, they are a great team and they may even have won anyways (seriously when was the last time a team had that many players who can not only hit the 3 but are great defenders too?), but I've never seen one team get that lucky with opposing teams injuries!
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6/17/2015  11:29 AM
Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.


Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.
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6/17/2015  11:29 AM
Nalod wrote:I think there are always exceptions and GS was one this year.
Its not a model I think sustains. Curry was amazing this year and you go to your strength. Amazing shooter!
Teams with that many shooters can do it.

Yep- there's no point in trying to emulate them because you will struggle to ever find an elite shooter like Curry, plus 4 or 5 other starter calibre players who can play defense great AND shoot the 3.
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6/17/2015  12:26 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Nalod wrote:I think there are always exceptions and GS was one this year.
Its not a model I think sustains. Curry was amazing this year and you go to your strength. Amazing shooter!
Teams with that many shooters can do it.

Yep- there's no point in trying to emulate them because you will struggle to ever find an elite shooter like Curry, plus 4 or 5 other starter calibre players who can play defense great AND shoot the 3.

Steve Nash is the model for what Curry did this year. Suns were as good if not better than this GS team but often its matchups and sequence that matter in the playoffs. SAS misses getting the two seed and instead drops to 6th and has to play Clippers who played great, but by doing so got depleted and unable to advance. GS was fortunate as are every champion in history to stay healthy and have good matchups!!!! Thats how it went for them This year. Was it SSOL the system that won? Not sure but no doubt the use of the 3pter was big. GS had the shooters to do it.

Found it interesting that Gentry and Kerr referenced MDA and the suns as the architect of this. The former GM, the video guy, Gentry, and Welts the president all came from Phoenix!!!!! Nash was the blueprint by which Curry achieved his MVP. This validates the style and Suns might have won if the Lakers (that phil guy) or Spurs were not in play then.

My point is A balance of shooters, slashers and power is unstopable. GS did not face a balanced team in its journey. Good for them!!!!
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6/17/2015  12:53 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.


Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.

It would be funny if he weren't in charge of the Knicks.

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6/17/2015  1:49 PM
VCoug wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.


Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.

It would be funny if he weren't in charge of the Knicks.

I was thinking the same thing. You can't make up a story about a GM being this wrong in his first 15 months. If it were any other team, it would be hilarious.
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