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Trade Scenario: Bogut, Harrison Barnes, and Ezeli for 4th pick
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GameHHH
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6/16/2015  5:57 PM
Would you guys do it? The Knicks would still have room for one max contract(perhaps LMA).

Calderon
Barnes
Melo
LMA
Bogut/Ezeli

That would be a top 4 seed in the East. Barnes is young and still has potential to improve.The key is whether the Knicks can sign someone better than Bogut in free agency. Bogut made 2nd team all defense. Gasol will re-sign with MEM. Jordan will re-sign with LAC. I doubt Chandler would go back. Do you guys want Monroe or Asik instead of Bogut?

The Warriors can shed salary. Draft WCS. Perhaps dump Lee in a separate deal to gain max cap room. They could offer Tyson Chandler a one year maximum contract. Sign Pierce to a one year deal for the MLE. Then use their bird rights to re-sign Green. They can maintain cap flexibility to make a run at Durant in 2016.

Curry/Livingston
Klay/Barbosa
Pierce/Iggy
Green/Speights
Chandler/WCS

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BRIGGS
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6/16/2015  6:02 PM
This is the worst trade I have heard! Sorry nothing personal. I mean you are watching that Bogut and Ezeli are barely playing and Bogut is on his last legs? The NBA is getting faster and the trend will pick up steam.
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6/16/2015  6:17 PM
You want to give the best team the 4th pick to possibly land another franchise player in addition to Curry and Thompson in exchange for role players?
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6/16/2015  6:18 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This is the worst trade I have heard! Sorry nothing personal. I mean you are watching that Bogut and Ezeli are barely playing and Bogut is on his last legs? The NBA is getting faster and the trend will pick up steam.

For this series that is the correct strategy. It's all about match ups. Bogut and Ezeli played a lot of minutes in the other series.

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6/16/2015  6:23 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:You want to give the best team the 4th pick to possibly land another franchise player in addition to Curry and Thompson in exchange for role players?

Guys like Mudiay and porzingis are projects that could easily become busts. You have to take Melo's age into consideration. Two starters from a championship team isn't exactly trash. WCS will become Tyson Chandler in about 2 seasons. IMO there is a big drop off from the top 3 picks to the 4th pick unfortunately.

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6/16/2015  6:25 PM
Terrible trade. No!
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6/16/2015  6:35 PM
Moonangie wrote:Terrible trade. No!

IMO. The trade down rumors would be much worse. kaminsky? LOL.

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6/16/2015  6:36 PM
GameHHH wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:You want to give the best team the 4th pick to possibly land another franchise player in addition to Curry and Thompson in exchange for role players?

Guys like Mudiay and porzingis are projects that could easily become busts. You have to take Melo's age into consideration. Two starters from a championship team isn't exactly trash. WCS will become Tyson Chandler in about 2 seasons. IMO there is a big drop off from the top 3 picks to the 4th pick unfortunately.

No man. Just no.

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6/16/2015  6:36 PM
i used to be a fan of bogut.... now he's just bogus.
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6/16/2015  6:41 PM
Cartman718 wrote:i used to be a fan of bogut.... now he's just bogus.

I think most posters are just overreacting to this particular series. Prisoners of the moment. He didn't accidentally make 2nd team all defense. He is a legit defensive anchor. Barnes is a very solid defender too. Knicks need immediate defensive help. Guys like Monroe and Kaminsky shouldn't even be mentioned. Defense wins championships.

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6/16/2015  6:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This is the worst trade I have heard! Sorry nothing personal. I mean you are watching that Bogut and Ezeli are barely playing and Bogut is on his last legs? The NBA is getting faster and the trend will pick up steam.

League is playing faster but you favor Kaminsky over Stein.

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6/16/2015  6:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/16/2015  6:48 PM
GameHHH wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i used to be a fan of bogut.... now he's just bogus.

I think most posters are just overreacting to this particular series. Prisoners of the moment. He didn't accidentally make 2nd team all defense. He is a legit defensive anchor. Barnes is a very solid defender too. Knicks need immediate defensive help. Guys like Monroe and Kaminsky shouldn't even be mentioned. Defense wins championships.

and you are underreacting. the fact is that he is not a starting center on a championship team, why do i forego such a talented draft for a bunch of wannabes.

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6/16/2015  6:58 PM
Also, I think barnes is up for a new contract.
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6/16/2015  7:01 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
GameHHH wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i used to be a fan of bogut.... now he's just bogus.

I think most posters are just overreacting to this particular series. Prisoners of the moment. He didn't accidentally make 2nd team all defense. He is a legit defensive anchor. Barnes is a very solid defender too. Knicks need immediate defensive help. Guys like Monroe and Kaminsky shouldn't even be mentioned. Defense wins championships.

and you are underreacting. the fact is that he is not a starting center on a championship team, why do i forego such a talented draft for a bunch of wannabes.

If the knicks are hign on WCS, Mudiay, or porzingis then they should take them at 4. The worst thing to do is trade down for a guy like kaminsky. My trade scenario is just an alternative to trading down.

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6/16/2015  7:04 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Also, I think barnes is up for a new contract.

He has a year left. Then a qualifying offer. 2 more cost effective years for a guy who I think can peak at an efficient 15-16 ppg with good rebounding and defense.

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6/16/2015  7:04 PM
GameHHH wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
GameHHH wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i used to be a fan of bogut.... now he's just bogus.

I think most posters are just overreacting to this particular series. Prisoners of the moment. He didn't accidentally make 2nd team all defense. He is a legit defensive anchor. Barnes is a very solid defender too. Knicks need immediate defensive help. Guys like Monroe and Kaminsky shouldn't even be mentioned. Defense wins championships.

and you are underreacting. the fact is that he is not a starting center on a championship team, why do i forego such a talented draft for a bunch of wannabes.

If the knicks are hign on WCS, Mudiay, or porzingis then they should take them at 4. The worst thing to do is trade down for a guy like kaminsky. My trade scenario is just an alternative to trading down.

not in favor of trading down for kaminsky either.

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6/16/2015  7:14 PM
GameHHH wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Also, I think barnes is up for a new contract.

He has a year left. Then a qualifying offer. 2 more cost effective years for a guy who I think can peak at an efficient 15-16 ppg with good rebounding and defense.

I thought they said during game 5 that the Warriors were going to pay him this offseason.
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6/16/2015  7:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
GameHHH wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Also, I think barnes is up for a new contract.

He has a year left. Then a qualifying offer. 2 more cost effective years for a guy who I think can peak at an efficient 15-16 ppg with good rebounding and defense.

I thought they said during game 5 that the Warriors were going to pay him this offseason.

They are going to re-sign Green. They haven't said anything about Barnes. It has been reported that they want to make a run at Durant in 2016.

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6/16/2015  7:36 PM
Ummm, no way.
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6/16/2015  8:49 PM
Not only is this a horrifyingly terrible trade that we should never do how do you figure we still have max cap space afterwards? Not including our draft pick we'll have about $30M to play around with this Summer. Those three players combined make just under $18M leaving us with $12M.
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Trade Scenario: Bogut, Harrison Barnes, and Ezeli for 4th pick

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