2 Kristaps Porzingis

3 Mario Hezonja

4. Deangelo Russell

5 Jahill Okafor

6. Frank Kaminsky

7 Emanuel Mudiay

8 Myles Turner

9 Justin Andersen

10 Willie Stein

11 Justice Winslow

12 Rashaud Vaughn

13 Trey Lyles

14 Cameron Payne

15 Stanley Johnson

16 Devin Booker

17 Jordan Mickey

18 Christian Wood

19 Jerian Grant

20 R J Hunter

21 Kelly Oubre

22 Rondae Jefferson

23 Norman Powell

24 Josh Richardson

25 Montrezl Harrell

26 Kevin Looney

27 Vince Hunter

28 Delon Wright

29 Terry Rozier

30 Joe Young

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

WaltLongmire wrote:Have you seen/read anything recent on Hezonja that led you to move him up to 4?

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

Its not where I think someone will go its who I think is the best 1-30.

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have you seen/read anything recent on Hezonja that led you to move him up to 4?

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

Its not where I think someone will go its who I think is the best 1-30.

Ahhh I see. I thought you were making your draft projections for who will draft who.

BRIGGS wrote:1. Karl Towns

2. Kristaps Porzingis

3 Deangelo Russell

4. Mario Hezonga

5 Jahill Okafor

6. Justin Andersen

7 Emanuel Mudiay

8 Frank Kaminsky

9 Willie Stein

10 Rashaud Vaughn

11 Justice Winslow

12 Myles Turner

13 Trey Lyles

14 Cameron Payne

15 R J Hunter

16 Devin Booker

17 Christian Wood

18 Stanley Johnson

19 Jordan Mickey

20 Jerian Grant

21 Kelly Oubre

22 Rondae Jefferson

23 Norman Powell

24 Josh Richardson

25 Montrezl Harrell

26 Kevin Looney

27 Vince Hunter

28 Delon Wright

29 Terry Rozier

30 Joe Young

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. Karl Towns

2. Kristaps Porzingis

3 Deangelo Russell

4. Mario Hezonga

5 Jahill Okafor

6. Justin Andersen

7 Emanuel Mudiay

8 Frank Kaminsky

9 Willie Stein

10 Rashaud Vaughn

11 Justice Winslow

12 Myles Turner

13 Trey Lyles

14 Cameron Payne

15 R J Hunter

16 Devin Booker

17 Christian Wood

18 Stanley Johnson

19 Jordan Mickey

20 Jerian Grant

21 Kelly Oubre

22 Rondae Jefferson

23 Norman Powell

24 Josh Richardson

25 Montrezl Harrell

26 Kevin Looney

27 Vince Hunter

28 Delon Wright

29 Terry Rozier

30 Joe Young

This looks like your personal Big Board, not a mock draft.

Right Im sorry I thought it was evident?

BRIGGS wrote:I really put emphasis on what I saw in the finals. When I went over the draft I raised the stock on what I believe are high caliber perimeter players and I gave Justin Andersen the highest grade out of the top 5 given his ability to be able to guard 5-4-3-2 his incredible physical features and athleticism--his 3 point shot and what I have seen as much improved driving skills in his pre draft workouts. I believe he is a better NBA prospect than Mudiay Winslow even Kaminsky valuating on what I have seen in the finals and how I think basketball is going and I had a difference of opinion on that just weeks ago. these finals should open eyes and change thought process. Versatility on both defense and offense is critical and if you can find a guy who can control the game from 30 feet and in other than the first two picks who are in a league of the own---they got the highest marks. I rated Stanley Johnson lower because of his lack of outside shooting which is critical. I dropped Winslow to later lottery. I dont think hes a great shooter nor do I think hes James Harden but hes still really good.

Justin Anderson can not guard Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol, Aldridge, Towns......He even had problems guarding Winslow in college. He's a great player and I hope we can add him, but guarding 2-4 is really his range.

I see you have Kaminsky 1 slot ahead of Stein.....I'm not surprised.

I think Hezonga is a sleeper and people would see him as a steal in a few years.

What surprised me the most is your boy ok4 at pick #5?

You created more threads about him being the best prospect in college basketball than any other player. I remember seeing pages and pages of OK4 vs Towns....and you claimed he was the best pick. As a Towns fan, I remember those thread battles. How did he fall from your #1 to #5 is beyond me, but we all know he will never drop passed 4...

If Kaminsky improves his lateral quickness and defensive IQ, he will be a beast in the NBA. He already has all the offensive tools you want in a PF. Not sure about his passing skills. Anderson is a good comparison, but I think Anderson right now has better defense, which isn't saying much.

You can say the same thing about Stein, as far as his offense. But Kaminsky is mature so he will say all the right things when the cameras are rolling. We will see once he plays in the NBA for a few months. It's not easy to just increase lateral quickness and defensive IQ that quick. It's usually takes some time. Stein showing that he already has a nice form on his jumper, and a soft touch around the basket, is already showing some progress. This is why I can see Stein improving on offense faster than Kaminsky improving his defensive IQ, especially in PnR.

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have you seen/read anything recent on Hezonja that led you to move him up to 4?

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

Its not where I think someone will go its who I think is the best 1-30.

Then I don't get why you've been pushing for us to draft Kaminsky, when you think he's only the 8th best player in the draft- it makes no sense?

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have you seen/read anything recent on Hezonja that led you to move him up to 4?

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

Its not where I think someone will go its who I think is the best 1-30.

Then I don't get why you've been pushing for us to draft Kaminsky, when you think he's only the 8th best player in the draft- it makes no sense?

Ive said trade down to get Frank Kaminsky AND draft picks many times over. Also after watching the NBA finals I cannot not adjust my thinking a tad. I put the tow players I think are truly the best up top--I put the two players I truly believe are the best perimeter based players next--I put the best post player in the draft at 5 followed by what I now believe might be the most versatile wing defender in the draft who also has a great 3 point shot and from what i have seen in the pre draft video--a burgeoning ability to drive the ball which makes him a whole different player. A lot of people have been saying Justice is the next Jimmy Butler but Andersen is not only a better shooter but physically more imposing for defensive flexibility. Hey these are just gut calls--you wait until the end to make your final best projection--I tried my best.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have you seen/read anything recent on Hezonja that led you to move him up to 4?

Have the Knicks ever even mentioned him?

Cannot see Phil passing on OK4 if he is there, and Orlando would have defensive problems beyond belief if they matched OK4 and Vucevich together.

Its not where I think someone will go its who I think is the best 1-30.

Thanks...I now understand.

No Fuzaro??

Fuzaro is not in this draft.

When did he withdraw? I thought he was just part of that multi-player workout in Vegas?? What was the reason for withdrawing so early??

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/06/draft-withdrawal-deadline-updates.html

Seems legit that he is withdrawing. His agent appears to be on record saying as much.

Many guys withdrew who wouldve been drafted. It makes sense to withdraw if your draft eligibility is up and you become a free agent compared to being a late 1 or 2 and a team has complete control over you.