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Speaking of, how have Okafor's workouts been going? Has he even done any?? If not, he and his agent might want to reconsider.|
blkexec
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6/14/2015 8:34 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone ever seen one player like this with these skills and this length in their life? And we have a chance to get him? How much does Anthony Davis weigh again? Its more impressive than what i saw of Porzingis. ...these are major flags for a 4th overall pick. I rather just give bargs a cheap contract to come off the bench. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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newyorknewyork
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6/14/2015 8:39 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone ever seen one player like this with these skills and this length in their life? And we have a chance to get him? How much does Anthony Davis weigh again? Briggs KG is the answer to that question. Porzingis looks more fluid and smooth then Bargs which is why he has more potential on the defensive end. But really it comes down to IQ and effort in the game. For all Bargs skills he has some of the worst defensive IQ and rebounding IQ we have seen. I would prefer if Porzingis was a shot blocking rebounding guy first with a developing offensive game like Towns. His interview though makes him intriguing as he comes off very smart and coach able. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Finestrg
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6/14/2015 8:45 AM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2015 9:10 AM
If we were lucky enough to draft this kid, I'd be fine with him coming off the bench/having a reduced role for the 1st year, maybe the first 2 years. My goal would be to add enough frontcourt depth (Alexis Ajinca--one of my top priorities this off-season, Greg Monroe, Lavoy Allen, Jordan Bachynski, Jerelle Benimon from the DL, Khem Birch for added shot-blocking, maybe Rich Howell for added rebounding and toughness, etc.) to the point where we have more than enough quality big man depth around Melo and could ease Porzingis into things without rushing him. Don't get me wrong, he'd be a rotation player for us right off the bat but he wouldn't have to be the man--we could take our time with him. Guys like Towns, Okafor and Russell--I'd expect those guys to start and expect a little more from them--Zinger on the other hand, we could take our time with him a little more if we add enough FC depth in FA. I hope Phil and co. see it like that as well..
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EwingsGlass
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6/14/2015 8:55 AM
blkexec wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone ever seen one player like this with these skills and this length in their life? And we have a chance to get him? How much does Anthony Davis weigh again? This post captures my feelings. We are two years from knowing whether this is a worthy pick. That's fine for a team like Philly that is stashing talent and picks. We need to perform soon. Right now he is a SF that can't guard the position. Not a C waiting to develop. Bargs would be ahead of him on the depth chart. I don't think he handles the NY pressure either. Maybe in 5 years we kick ourselves. Maybe not. I hope 1 of the top 3 picks reach for him so it is not my problem. You know I gonna spin wit it
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2015 8:57 AM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2015 8:57 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone ever seen one player like this with these skills and this length in their life? And we have a chance to get him? How much does Anthony Davis weigh again? I'm sure Bargs would look fluid and smooth in workout videos too. Nothing against Porzingis. I'd LOVE to have him but it's too much of a gamble with the 4th pick IMO. |
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s3231
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6/14/2015 8:57 AM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2015 9:00 AM
For those making the KP to Bargnani comparisons, I think the athleticism that Porzingis has at this stage separates the two by quite a bit. Porzingis has almost every physical tool you could wish for from a 7'1 big guy and the only thing he really needs to focus on is strength.
I really like KP as a prospect and even from just watching interviews, it's diffiicult to not like where his head is at. Like others have said in this thread though, I don't see him being ready to contribute substantially in year one. Physically, he will get abused in the post and if you watch the game footage, it's not uncommon to see his opposition put a 6'7 guy on him and still establish position in the paint and outbox/out rebound KP. He already looks like he has added a few more pounds since the season ended so I don't see any reason why he can't develop into a star in this league. But if you draft Porgz at #4, the expectation has to be that you will need to wait 1-2 years before he really takes off. Not sure if Phil and the front office will be willing to wait but you never know. Phil has said he doesn't expect much out of rookies in first couple of years before (especially with bigs) and he brought up Bynum as an example from his time with the Lakers. We'll see what happens.....hell of a prospect though. "This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2015 9:00 AM
s3231 wrote:For those making the KP to Bargnani comparisons, I think the athleticism that Porzingis has at this stage separates the two by a bit. Athleticism? Did you see the video I posted of Bargs in game plays at age 19? |