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BRIGGS
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6/12/2015  11:26 AM
The 3 point shot is emphasized so much its unbelievable.
Does anyone even remember 3-5 years ago watching pre draft videos--it was rare to see guys shooting 3's now everyone and their mom shoots them. Its the way the NBA is going and the only way to defend it is by having really good perimeter defenders and an arsenal you can fight back with.

Phil Jackson is wrong in his assessment. This is the way the NBA is going. And the % shooting will improve Y to Y on a team basis.

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6/12/2015  11:30 AM
The NBA within games and year to year has always been about attack and react. The three point shot is high efficiency right now. But a young team like the Bucks may be able to put together a team of long rangy defenders that can smother the perimeter. And maybe guys like Okafor, Towns and Anthony Davis make post play all the more valuable again. Teams in the NBA will look to expose weaknesses and find inefficiencies - I think the cycle will swing back and forth. I think it's wrong to say there's any one way to play the game - as Phil seems to think and as MDA thought - you have to react to what teams are giving you, whether it's within one single play of a game or over the course of a season.
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6/12/2015  11:31 AM
BRIGGS wrote:The 3 point shot is emphasized so much its unbelievable.
Does anyone even remember 3-5 years ago watching pre draft videos--it was rare to see guys shooting 3's now everyone and their mom shoots them. Its the way the NBA is going and the only way to defend it is by having really good perimeter defenders and an arsenal you can fight back with.

Phil Jackson is wrong in his assessment. This is the way the NBA is going. And the % shooting will improve Y to Y on a team basis.

Might be time to start looking for a new team....until Phil is gone. Seems like you and Phil have completely different views on building the knicks.

To me, I think the 3 pt attention is just a phase. What Phil is saying, is that we need to rememember the basic structure of a team. Have players that are effecient at putting the ball in the hole.....and players that protect the hole.

If your theory was correct, then MDA would still be a knick coach....or he wouldn't be unemployed.

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6/12/2015  11:37 AM
blkexec wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The 3 point shot is emphasized so much its unbelievable.
Does anyone even remember 3-5 years ago watching pre draft videos--it was rare to see guys shooting 3's now everyone and their mom shoots them. Its the way the NBA is going and the only way to defend it is by having really good perimeter defenders and an arsenal you can fight back with.

Phil Jackson is wrong in his assessment. This is the way the NBA is going. And the % shooting will improve Y to Y on a team basis.

Might be time to start looking for a new team....until Phil is gone. Seems like you and Phil have completely different views on building the knicks.

To me, I think the 3 pt attention is just a phase. What Phil is saying, is that we need to rememember the basic structure of a team. Have players that are effecient at putting the ball in the hole.....and players that protect the hole.

If your theory was correct, then MDA would still be a knick coach....or he wouldn't be unemployed.

The Spurs have it right GS has it right. Its 3 D pass drive shoot and team D. the 3 point shot creates spacing. It spreads the floor and makes it much harder to guard.

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6/12/2015  11:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/12/2015  11:40 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The 3 point shot is emphasized so much its unbelievable.
Does anyone even remember 3-5 years ago watching pre draft videos--it was rare to see guys shooting 3's now everyone and their mom shoots them. Its the way the NBA is going and the only way to defend it is by having really good perimeter defenders and an arsenal you can fight back with.

Phil Jackson is wrong in his assessment. This is the way the NBA is going. And the % shooting will improve Y to Y on a team basis.

Might be time to start looking for a new team....until Phil is gone. Seems like you and Phil have completely different views on building the knicks.

To me, I think the 3 pt attention is just a phase. What Phil is saying, is that we need to rememember the basic structure of a team. Have players that are effecient at putting the ball in the hole.....and players that protect the hole.

If your theory was correct, then MDA would still be a knick coach....or he wouldn't be unemployed.

The Spurs have it right GS has it right. Its 3 D pass drive shoot and team D. the 3 point shot creates spacing. It spreads the floor and makes it much harder to guard.

Duncan and Parker are the key players for the Spurs. Protect and Attack

They open up the 3pt shot.....Not the other way around! So yes you are right about the Spurs as a model for building a team.

Mudiay is your Parker....Towns is your Duncan.

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6/12/2015  11:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/12/2015  11:41 AM
blkexec wrote:

Duncan and Parker are the key players for the Spurs. Protect and Attack

They open up the 3pt shot.....Not the other way around! So yes you are right about the Spurs as a model for building a team.

Mudiay is your Parker....Towns is your Duncan.

I agree with this so much.

You absolutely need shooters to be able to capitalize on opportunities Duncan/Parker create. But they create the opportunities in the middle of the floor. Without that piece, the perimeter D can just stay home. You need to be able to create havoc in the middle and kick it out.

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6/12/2015  11:54 AM
I just find it to be insane to think Phil is somehow not thinking right given his track record. All he does is think strategy and lineups. Team focus and adjustments. We forget he's faced teams that played this 4 out style of ball. He's also been watching the league just like us. He's not somehow oblivious to what teams are doing. He's figuring out what kind of roster can be successful against any type of team.
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6/12/2015  12:01 PM
crzymdups wrote:
blkexec wrote:

Duncan and Parker are the key players for the Spurs. Protect and Attack

They open up the 3pt shot.....Not the other way around! So yes you are right about the Spurs as a model for building a team.

Mudiay is your Parker....Towns is your Duncan.

I agree with this so much.

You absolutely need shooters to be able to capitalize on opportunities Duncan/Parker create. But they create the opportunities in the middle of the floor. Without that piece, the perimeter D can just stay home. You need to be able to create havoc in the middle and kick it out.

Yup...and more Yup.

Not many teams get the open 3s GS gets.

They do those very high multiple screens, and for the most part they really don't care about the traditional pick and roll pass down low, but Curry is a special player as both shooter and passer- not sure anyone else like him exists in the NBA


I love Mosgov, but if you had an elite post up player on the Cavs, GS would be in a lot of trouble- they would be punished on the defensive end down low, and the 3pt shooters on the Cavs would eventually get better looks. Think about any of the great post-up centers and what they would have done to that small team GS put out yesterday. There would be tradeoffs, sure, but Bogut is too slow and the others too small to stop an elite post-up man.

I think SA would have had a better chance against GS than the other teams GS beat in the West because they have a more flexible offense.


I just want a balanced and efficient offense that can be adaptable.

A question. If you are the Lakers, do you go for the potentially dominant post-up game OK4 might have, or the outside game and passing Russell might give them?

If you are in the West, do you draft with GS in mind?

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6/12/2015  1:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/12/2015  1:37 PM
ONce everybody does it, its time to move to something else.
Differentiate or assimilate?

MDA was on this 10 years ago and finally a team not named SAS will win with it.

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6/12/2015  1:43 PM
BRIGGS wrote:The 3 point shot is emphasized so much its unbelievable.
Does anyone even remember 3-5 years ago watching pre draft videos--it was rare to see guys shooting 3's now everyone and their mom shoots them. Its the way the NBA is going and the only way to defend it is by having really good perimeter defenders and an arsenal you can fight back with.

Phil Jackson is wrong in his assessment. This is the way the NBA is going. And the % shooting will improve Y to Y on a team basis.

3pt shot doesn't exist without elite defenders rebounding and stealing the ball allowing fast breaks.
pnr 3pt shots are fewer in my opinion.
besides gsw really did a defensive number on the cavs last night, it wasn't all just 3 point shooting. it was definitely mda reminiscing in terms of interchangeability on offensive and defensive switches.

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6/12/2015  1:49 PM
With the 3 pointer--its nearly impossible to lock a team down.

If you have one sieve on offense for more than a few minutes at a time--its a lot easier to scheme.

Its pretty simple Clev had a huge advantage yes despite their guys out.

A They are home
B They have size advantage all over the court EVERY position.
C So they should win right--all Clev has to do is lock down?
D-But Clev never had a chance GS took the pace up despite not playing well David Lee gave them 10 points from where they were getting zero and with a more balanced attack on offense guys who had struggled found space Barnes and Green. Its hard to guard 5 when the team is spread out behind the 3 point line and their interior guy can score and pass.

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