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WaltLongmire
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6/10/2015  2:21 AM
About to shut down and go to bed and saw this...

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The best player in college basketball, who some Knicks fans would like to see them trade down in the draft in order to snatch, 7-foot senior Frank Kaminsky, is tentatively scheduled to meet with the club next Tuesday and Wednesday in New York, according to a league source.

Did we tank to take the Tank?


I expect to see a new round of Steinlove tomorrow.

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6/10/2015  2:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/10/2015  2:37 AM
I'm ok with this. He was really, really good in the last two tournament games against WCS, Towns, and Okafor. In fact you could make an argument wisconsin would of won the championship if they got him the ball more inside.
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6/10/2015  10:20 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:About to shut down and go to bed and saw this...

Comes from Berman

The best player in college basketball, who some Knicks fans would like to see them trade down in the draft in order to snatch, 7-foot senior Frank Kaminsky, is tentatively scheduled to meet with the club next Tuesday and Wednesday in New York, according to a league source.

Did we tank to take the Tank?


I expect to see a new round of Steinlove tomorrow.

Gees I hope they can get Franks and Stein in 1-1 drills

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6/10/2015  10:52 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:About to shut down and go to bed and saw this...

Comes from Berman

The best player in college basketball, who some Knicks fans would like to see them trade down in the draft in order to snatch, 7-foot senior Frank Kaminsky, is tentatively scheduled to meet with the club next Tuesday and Wednesday in New York, according to a league source.

Did we tank to take the Tank?


I expect to see a new round of Steinlove tomorrow.

Gees I hope they can get Franks and Stein in 1-1 drills


Seems that they've been doing a dinner and then the workout. I expect they will meet with him on Tuesday night, the day of Stein's workout, and then work him out on Wednesday.

Would be nice to get guys together at the same practice- not sure how the agents feel about that kind of thing, though.

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6/10/2015  12:48 PM
WCS will meet him in the parking lot before the workout and tell him not to bother
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6/10/2015  12:54 PM
smackeddog wrote:WCS will meet him in the parking lot before the workout and tell him not to bother

Yeah I think you're right--just order the lobster Frank it wont matter if you'r stomach is upset for the workout tomorrow its already cast in stone. Also dont go near my locker btch.

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6/11/2015  8:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/11/2015  8:00 AM
Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

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6/11/2015  8:05 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

If we had another mid round pick i would definetly pick Kaminsky but not at 4
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6/11/2015  8:07 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

this kid is impressive. it's not just the footwork and shooting it's the recognition of the situation and his decision-making. i really like kaminsky.

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6/11/2015  8:54 AM
well at least we're going to be working out a big who actually has some skills and not one who were pretending can guard all 5 positions on the court
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6/11/2015  11:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/11/2015  11:50 AM
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

this kid is impressive. it's not just the footwork and shooting it's the recognition of the situation and his decision-making. i really like kaminsky.

I dont think people realize his whole array of skills--team changing type skills--playmaking elegant shooting form anywhere post footwork and moves and handles for such a big guy. I think he has them all plus what I like is he plays a thinking mans game. I am confidant he can guard whatever needs to be in the NBA --being 7-1 is natural deterrent and his mobility is going to just keep improving.

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6/11/2015  12:11 PM
Yeah apparently out of SJ, Oubre, and Kaminsky, Kaminsky is the only one Pat got out of his seat for. He walked down shook Frank's hand and introduced himself.
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6/11/2015  12:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

this kid is impressive. it's not just the footwork and shooting it's the recognition of the situation and his decision-making. i really like kaminsky.

I dont think people realize his whole array of skills--team changing type skills--playmaking elegant shooting form anywhere post footwork and moves and handles for such a big guy. I think he has them all plus what I like is he plays a thinking mans game. I am confidant he can guard whatever needs to be in the NBA --being 7-1 is natural deterrent and his mobility is going to just keep improving.

I think they do, the question is how do they translate into the NBA. He's got average size, he's not explosive and he's not powerful. So if most PFs in the NBA are more athletic or stronger that makes Frank a finess player. Name some great ones... Robert Horry? I could see Frank in that kind of role. A poor man's Aldridge?

I mean what's Frank's best NBA weapon... his jumper. He's not going to push guys around in the post. He's not creating his own shot. He's not anchoring a defense, so he's a finess role player. He's a guy that looks great sandwiched between two high quality players. Simple fact is he is NOT an NBA athlete, and doesnt have the size or power like guys like Marc Gasol or Pekovick have. Frank is going to try to bridge the gap with BB IQ and fundamentals. How are those going to work in a 7 game playoff serious against any team with more athletic bigs? Frank and his fans may be in for a rude wake up.

Nice player... role player. The #10-#15 range is probably just about right.

There is a lot more Channing Frye in Frank than Dirk.

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6/11/2015  12:19 PM
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

this kid is impressive. it's not just the footwork and shooting it's the recognition of the situation and his decision-making. i really like kaminsky.

I dont think people realize his whole array of skills--team changing type skills--playmaking elegant shooting form anywhere post footwork and moves and handles for such a big guy. I think he has them all plus what I like is he plays a thinking mans game. I am confidant he can guard whatever needs to be in the NBA --being 7-1 is natural deterrent and his mobility is going to just keep improving.

I think they do, the question is how do they translate into the NBA. He's got average size, he's not explosive and he's not powerful. So if most PFs in the NBA are more athletic or stronger that makes Frank a finess player. Name some great ones... Robert Horry? I could see Frank in that kind of role. A poor man's Aldridge?

I mean what's Frank's best NBA weapon... his jumper. He's not going to push guys around in the post. He's not creating his own shot. He's not anchoring a defense, so he's a finess role player. He's a guy that looks great sandwiched between two high quality players. Simple fact is he is NOT an NBA athlete, and doesnt have the size or power like guys like Marc Gasol or Pekovick have. Frank is going to try to bridge the gap with BB IQ and fundamentals. How are those going to work in a 7 game playoff serious against any team with more athletic bigs? Frank and his fans may be in for a rude wake up.

Nice player... role player. The #10-#15 range is probably just about right.

There is a lot more Channing Frye in Frank than Dirk.


Thats exactly where people are off. Hes 3 inches taller than Frye a better ballhandler hes tough smart and plasy the whole court. People have it in their mind that he s a 3 point mobile 4. He can shoot it and he shouldve taken more than 2.6 per game but his bread and butter starts in the post to mid range. People dont realize but this kid has a huge confidence and is very tough.
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6/11/2015  12:22 PM
BRIGGS must be throwing a parade that the knicks are working him out.!!!

this kid is super talented and will have a long NBA career. ive always liked his shooting, post and face up game. he needs to get stronger and improve on defense though

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/11/2015  12:22 PM
BRIGGS must be throwing a parade that the knicks are working him out.!!!

this kid is super talented and will have a long NBA career. ive always liked his shooting, post and face up game. he needs to get stronger and improve on defense though

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/11/2015  12:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Video ten down illustrates why people have no clue about Kaminsky's high tier value.

We all remember Rondae Jefferson locking up Deangelo Russell.

Well Frank the tank took Jefferson from the foule line using deft ballhandling skills (for a guy who is 7-1 now!) uses his spin moves and creates tremendous separation between him and maybe the number 1 perimeter defender in the draft.(video 10)

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/6/8348593/frank-kaminsky-nba-draft-status-wisconsin-basketball

this kid is impressive. it's not just the footwork and shooting it's the recognition of the situation and his decision-making. i really like kaminsky.

I dont think people realize his whole array of skills--team changing type skills--playmaking elegant shooting form anywhere post footwork and moves and handles for such a big guy. I think he has them all plus what I like is he plays a thinking mans game. I am confidant he can guard whatever needs to be in the NBA --being 7-1 is natural deterrent and his mobility is going to just keep improving.

I also think he has a chip on his shoulder at this point- that quote of his where he said that he's 22 but being treated like he is 65 seems revealing to me.

I look at the success he had in college, and the constant improvement he made in his game over the 4 years as significant, and he still looks like he can work on his body.

Will he be able to do that Dirk fall-back shot he's working on in actual competition- can't be sure-I think so, BUT the guy already has a proven outside shot, an assortment of moves inside, an ability to dribble full court and finish successfully, an ability to pass the ball better than any big in the draft, and he is fundamentally sound as a rebounder and defender.

He has to show me some ability to defend on the perimeter if he is guarding a stretch 4, but I am betting he's worked enough on his footwork to do that.

If we get him in a trade down, I'd be happy, but I think he's worthy of consideration at 4.

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6/11/2015  1:32 PM
he doesnt have great athleticism or strength or quickness
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6/11/2015  4:23 PM
jbeachboy wrote:he doesnt have great athleticism or strength or quickness

Hell, I'm surprised he is even going through the embarrassment he will face for even wanting to play in the NBA, and you know, I'm also surprised he had the guts to show up at that Kentucky game.
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6/11/2015  4:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/11/2015  4:50 PM
jbeachboy wrote:he doesnt have great athleticism or strength or quickness

This team didnt have 1 good athlete on the team--hows they do?

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