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Knicks1969
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6/4/2015  8:01 PM
I am getting a little sick trying to anticipate what the Knicks will do with that fourth pick. We have such a bad record with draft picks; I am afraid we will some how find a way to mess things up just like we did in winning the last two games. So, June 22nd can't get here soon enough for me.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/4/2015  8:07 PM
totally agreed what makes it worse is the damn speculation. every day some sportscaster comes up with a rumour thats discussed to death and it makes it works. i hope phil knows what he is doing fans went from in phil we trust to the bball gods hates us. interesting to say the least.
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6/4/2015  8:13 PM
this is nothing... just wait until after the finals...
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6/4/2015  8:21 PM
Phil is normally pretty consistent with his approach to the game. I can't see him suddenly going against his tried and true format. He last had a team with 2 huge post players and I see him going back to that. I don't think he sees a Kobe or Jordan in Winslow or Mudiay. If that's the case I feel he'll go big and build around that. Now if Russell or Okafor fall that could change some things. It all depends on how strongly he feels about those 2. Phil has said it all starts with a defensive big and I still agree with that basic premise. It's one of his oldest philosophies. He was the one that pushed and pushed to trade for Bill Cartwright. He's always felt more comfortable with bigs on his teams.
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6/4/2015  8:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/4/2015  8:43 PM
Of course, once upon a time, Phil won himself a ring as a defensive big for
the New York Knicks.
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6/4/2015  8:56 PM
JoeyBagadonuts wrote:Of course, once upon a time, Phil won himself a ring as a defensive big for
the New York Knicks.

OH Yeah!

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6/4/2015  9:06 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I am getting a little sick trying to anticipate what the Knicks will do with that fourth pick. We have such a bad record with draft picks; I am afraid we will some how find a way to mess things up just like we did in winning the last two games. So, June 22nd can't get here soon enough for me.

Isn't the draft on the 25th??

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6/4/2015  9:09 PM
nixluva wrote:
JoeyBagadonuts wrote:Of course, once upon a time, Phil won himself a ring as a defensive big for
the New York Knicks.

OH Yeah!

That's what I'm talking about! I've been following the debates on the forum with great interest. I gotta say I'm feeling better and better about that fourth pick every day. Assuming the so called big three are off the board, I'll be properly thrilled to get Trill.

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6/4/2015  9:32 PM
I want this to be over with already.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/4/2015  9:43 PM
the draft always occurs around my birthday so i consider the knicks draft a bday gift. too bad we have not kept my gifts lol
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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6/5/2015  12:07 AM
Cartman718 wrote:the draft always occurs around my birthday so i consider the knicks draft a bday gift. too bad we have not kept my gifts lol

Pray that we draft WCS

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/5/2015  12:46 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:the draft always occurs around my birthday so i consider the knicks draft a bday gift. too bad we have not kept my gifts lol

Pray that we draft WCS

I think we will see Phil do exactly what he said he was going to do and what Mills has also added to the description of what they're planning. Too often we get into these conversations but some actually forget what the Knicks have been saying. I don't.
that's they I keep posting their actual statements.

“Gotta have a defender,” Jackson said. “… That’s a good starting point — a guy like Tyson Chandler is the defensive backup that we have to have. In this day and age in our game, there are so many screen and rolls, so many 3-point shooters, so many things that a player of size has to (do). Not only cover the paint and protect the basket but he has to be able to step out defensively and play a guard and do some defensive work on the extreme part of the floor so it’s very important that that player have defensive capabilities.”

“A first draft pick can move an entire organization as Patrick Ewing did here in the early 80s,” Jackson acknowledged. “We want to see if that player is the one that can move the whole franchise ahead as a direct cause. All the other options are there on the table for us and what happens behind that is we have zero big men. We have Carmelo [Anthony] as our only big man that’s under contract, so we have to pick not only draft picks but also free agents to fill out our roster, so what combination will go together with the people that we draft and a free agent market.”

The 2015 class figures to be stacked with talented guards and big men, especially near the top of the draft. On April 26 we’ll know exactly how deep the draft is following the deadline for early entry eligibility.

“It’s a very talented crop and we’re happy to have this opportunity and we’re going to make the most of it,” Jackson stated.

“We want a player that has multiple skills,” he added. “I’m very impressed with the young players that are playing in college right now.”

Free Agency Strategy

“We will not go after the biggest name that’s out there,” Mills confirmed. “We will go after players that fit in the system and style of play, so it may in fact be one of the big names but one thing for certain it will be a person that fits system wise with us. One of the things that Phil brings to the table for us is allows us to sort of clear the deck, to speak, so that we know exactly the skills that players need to have to be successful in our system and we’re going to go after players like that. It will be a combination of big names and guys that are just system fits.”

Members of the Knicks staff have traveled overseas in recent weeks to scout European players and seek out reasonable buyouts. Jackson and Mills expressed the importance of exploring all options to build the roster for the next season and beyond. As part of their due diligence, conversations will take place with agents of players to pitch the Knicks plan for the short and long term.

“You’re constantly planting seeds on why this would be a good place for their players and that’s a process that takes place all the way throughout the year,” Mills disclosed.

Who Will Return?
The Knicks re-shaped the roster midseason and entered evaluation mode to assess the players on the team that would fit the desired style and culture for the franchise. On Thursday night, Jackson and Mills praised Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas, and Langston Galloway for their play on the floor and professional approach to the game.

“They brought a lot of joy to us just by watching how they play,” Jackson smiled. “Great energy, team players, they do a job out there and they all can play defense and they’re two-way players as we say. So, that kind of says in a nutshell about what’s going to happen with this team. That’s the direction we’re looking to go.”

This does not rule out the potential return of other players on the roster as Jackson and Mills will make those decisions in early July.

“On July 1st, we chase free agents that we know are likely to come to this organization and we do that in a way that compliments our draft choice and compliments the team and the way we want to play basketball,” Jackson asserted.

"We have a lot of things that are on the table at this point," Mills said. "We still have [trade] exceptions that we can use between now and the draft, so we're talking to teams about a lot of different things, so we're open to looking at different opportunities to continue to improve our team."

Mills indicated that if the team did decide to trade their draft pick, it likely would not be in an effort to move down and collect more draft picks.

"We may end up looking at a second pick, but more than likely, even if we take that pick, it's not for a player we expect to be on our team, we have a lot of young players on our roster right now, and our goal is to expand the team and add some more veteran, more experienced players."

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6/5/2015  1:26 PM
I'm with you guys. Can't wait for the draft and the July free agent frenzy. There is so much speculation going on - I'm tempted to shut off all the noise. I don't think anyone has a concrete idea of what Phil will do. He's the kind of guy that seems to purposely sit back and be vague and play mind games with the media (it's part of his arrogance). I admire his supreme confidence - I just hope he's right.
MSG should turn this into a pre-draft mystery TV series: "What will Phil do?"
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6/5/2015  2:55 PM
Draft is the 25th.

I have said it before and I will say it again, with the pick and cap room, NY will add at least 2 all-star level talents this year. The rookie may not get their this year but hopefully within a year or two. Additionally, I would think there is room for 1 more solid player. All that being said, NY can have a solid rotation that should make the playoffs.

With that and added CAP room next year, they could be a contender the following season.

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6/5/2015  3:05 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Draft is the 25th.

I have said it before and I will say it again, with the pick and cap room, NY will add at least 2 all-star level talents this year. The rookie may not get their this year but hopefully within a year or two. Additionally, I would think there is room for 1 more solid player. All that being said, NY can have a solid rotation that should make the playoffs.

With that and added CAP room next year, they could be a contender the following season.

I can't wait for Phil to have guys like luprica and Isola eat their words

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/5/2015  3:51 PM
nixluva wrote:Phil is normally pretty consistent with his approach to the game. I can't see him suddenly going against his tried and true format. He last had a team with 2 huge post players and I see him going back to that. I don't think he sees a Kobe or Jordan in Winslow or Mudiay. If that's the case I feel he'll go big and build around that. Now if Russell or Okafor fall that could change some things. It all depends on how strongly he feels about those 2. Phil has said it all starts with a defensive big and I still agree with that basic premise. It's one of his oldest philosophies. He was the one that pushed and pushed to trade for Bill Cartwright. He's always felt more comfortable with bigs on his teams.

He's been consistently bad since joining this franchise...dude better hit a grand slam this off season.

My bet is he's going to draft somebody that was on his radar only, or make a ridiculous trade. At this point I have very little faith

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6/5/2015  4:01 PM
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nixluva wrote:Phil is normally pretty consistent with his approach to the game. I can't see him suddenly going against his tried and true format. He last had a team with 2 huge post players and I see him going back to that. I don't think he sees a Kobe or Jordan in Winslow or Mudiay. If that's the case I feel he'll go big and build around that. Now if Russell or Okafor fall that could change some things. It all depends on how strongly he feels about those 2. Phil has said it all starts with a defensive big and I still agree with that basic premise. It's one of his oldest philosophies. He was the one that pushed and pushed to trade for Bill Cartwright. He's always felt more comfortable with bigs on his teams.

He's been consistently bad since joining this franchise...dude better hit a grand slam this off season.

My bet is he's going to draft somebody that was on his radar only, or make a ridiculous trade. At this point I have very little faith


Why would you assume these things? What has Phil done that would suggest he'd take some guy that was only on his radar, which by that I take it to mean you think he'd take some unworthy random guy.

You really need to readjust your take on Phil. He's not likely to do something strange. He's probably one of the few remaining old School guys who would be more likely to go with a less risky move. Phil seems more likely to make a pick that is based on some tried and true basketball axiom. Like defense wins championships or when talent is equal you take the big man.

The Draft can't get here soon enough

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