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nixluva
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6/1/2015  7:55 PM
Great news for all of my fellow WCS fans.

Really interesting news on Russell.

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6/1/2015  8:00 PM
Any Knicks workout news?
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6/1/2015  8:06 PM
Nice....I am one who happens to believe Russell, WCS and Winslow will be the stars of this draft. Five years from now, if these kids are in the right situation, all three will be Allstars
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/1/2015  8:07 PM
Long arms and a decent vert. Why Russell? Why!
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6/1/2015  8:10 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Long arms and a decent vert. Why Russell? Why!

So he doesn't high enough for you?

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/1/2015  8:14 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Long arms and a decent vert. Why Russell? Why!

So he doesn't high enough for you?

No...because that would mean there is not chance for him to drop into our laps.

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6/1/2015  8:16 PM
The last thing I needed to read was that Russell was more athletic than he had let on. I don't see how he gets past #3 unless Mudiay just blows people away in workouts. I wouldn't put it past Mudiay to look impressive in workouts. Dude is a stud physically and he's a real PG on top of that. Literally all Mudiay would need to do is hit shots convincingly and it might be enough to put him in the top 3.

This is going to get interesting as these workout reports start coming out. I'm very please about WCS looking smooth and confident shooting the ball.

Cauley-Stein, the guy the Knicks have a chance at drafting, looked smooth with the J, per Chad Ford...

I mean, pretty much every NBA player in history, with the possible exception of Jared Jeffries, could shoot the ball well in practice. WCS has dramatically improved his shooting stroke since his freshman year, however, and he wasn't totally inept from mid-range last season:

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6/1/2015  8:16 PM
Actually think the Russell results are the most intriguing.

If you remember, Curry was considered to be a less than wonderful athlete until the pre-draft measurements, at which point he impressed people at the combine, and started being looked at differently.

If the Lakers take him at #2, I can't see Philly going big, especially if Mudiay's workouts are good. We can then pick up OK4 if he impresses.

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6/1/2015  8:33 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Long arms and a decent vert. Why Russell? Why!

So he doesn't high enough for you?

No...because that would mean there is not chance for him to drop into our laps.

Oh, I see what u mean

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/1/2015  8:36 PM
Draftexpress just put up a Cliff Alexander workout video. Alexander is another guy Phil should look at picking up if he gets some second round picks.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Cliff-Alexander-Workout-Video-and-Interview-5038
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6/1/2015  8:57 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Draftexpress just put up a Cliff Alexander workout video. Alexander is another guy Phil should look at picking up if he gets some second round picks.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Cliff-Alexander-Workout-Video-and-Interview-5038

I actually like Dekker for the Triangle.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Sam-Dekker-Workout-Video-and-Interview-5029/

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6/1/2015  9:20 PM
Did any rookies work out with the Knicks yet?
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6/1/2015  9:28 PM
stopstandthere wrote:Did any rookies work out with the Knicks yet?

This will be the place to check when it does happen. They're setting up dates now so soon enough we'll have something to report.

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6/1/2015  10:40 PM
Four players who have improved their stock considerably are Richaun Holmes, Rakeem Christmas, Jordan Mickey and Rashad Vaughn.

“All four have helped themselves so far during the workouts,” one Eastern Conference general manager told SheridanHoops. “Vaughn has a chance to go in the first round. The other three are second-round picks. Although Christmas has apparently intrigued some teams at the bottom of the first round.”

The four players are ranked based on how far they have moved up on the draft board.


1. Richaun Holmes, F, 6-10, 243, Bowling Green

richaun-holmes-bowling-green-falconsWho? That’s what the average NBA fan may be saying at first glance. Heck, some general managers thought the same thing before Holmes made a name for himself at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament followed by an invitation to Chicago.

“I can play,” Holmes told SheridanHoops. “I can play with anybody. I’m here. I know I went to Bowling Green, which is a small school, but I’m here now and I feel like I can play with anybody in the nation and be successful.”

Holmes displayed his high motor and blocked five shots with a posterizing dunk during the first day of the combine. During his career at Bowling Green, Holmes proved to be an effective rim protector, averaging 2.6 blocks per game.

It’s those types of hustle plays that makes the forward confident he can be a contributor to a winning organization.

“I want to have championships,” Holmes told SheridanHoops. “I want to be seen as a guy who did his job on and off the court as a professional. Above all else, I want to win championships. I see all the time on TV the joy and confidence it brings. I want to be a part of that and I want to contribute to that. If I can play in the NBA and win multiple championships, I would feel accomplished.”

Holmes knows there are elements he has to add to his game to impress executives in his upcoming workouts.

“Being able to knock down the mid-range jump shot consistently,” Holmes told SheridanHoops. “I’m working on stretching it out to the three and being that stretch-4 that’s so coveted in the NBA today. Also, dribbling so when my team needs it, I’ll have ability to bring the ball up.”

In his senior season, Holmes began to show promise of that expanded range, shooting 42 percent from the arc.

Holmes already has worked out for the Jazz, Spurs, Pacers and Mavericks. He will add the Suns, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Raptors, Grizzlies and others to the list for roughly 15 total workouts, league sources tell SheridanHoops.

Previous Draft Range: Undrafted

New Draft Range: Late 30′s to Early 40′s

2. Rakeem Christmas, F-C, 6-10, 242, Syracuse


Christmas is a rarity by today’s draft standards. In an era where prospects enter the draft early and are chosen on potential, the big man spent four seasons at Syracuse and at 23 years old is ready to make an immediate impact as a rotation player.

Christmas put it all together in his senior season, averaging a career-high 17.5 points, 9.1 rebounds and 2.5 blocks.

“He’s a borderline first-round pick,” one NBA scout told SheridanHoops.

To solidify a spot in the first round, Christmas is attempting to show talent evaluators an expanded offensive game.

“I’ve just been working on a lot of shooting,” Christmas told SheridanHoops. “I didn’t shoot the ball a lot at Syracuse, I was always in the post.”

The work paid off at the combine, where Christmas hit several mid-range jumpers while sprinkling in a hook shot as well. At the first day of the combine, Christmas had 20 points on an efficient 7-of-10 from the field with seven rebounds, one block and one steal.

“He was underutilized in college,” one GM told SheridanHoops. “I like his size. He can be a backup NBA post player.”

The size the GM noted includes Christmas’ 7-5 wingspan, which when coupled with his motor makes him a solid shot blocker and offensive rebounder.

Christmas has a message for others NBA executives as well.

“I’d tell them I’m a great teammate, I give it my all, I do the little things,” he said. “I just want to be aggressive and just come in and learn as much as I can as fast as I can.”

Christmas already has worked out for the Pacers, Spurs, 76ers and Celtics. He will add the Mavericks to that list Friday, league sources tell SheridanHoops.

Previous Draft Range: Late 30’s

New Draft Range: Late 20’s to Early 30’s


3. Jordan Mickey, F, 6-8, 235, LSU

“I like Mickey,” an Eastern Conference GM told SheridanHoops. “He’s an NBA shot blocker and rebounder. He’s a more athletic Taj Gibson.”

Mickey has a nearly 7-4 wingspan and led all power forwards at the combine with a max vertical leap of nearly 38 inches, which helped him average an elite 3.6 blocks during this past season at LSU.

“I feel I can be a player who can make First Team All-Defense, possible Defensive Player of the Year,” Mickey told SheridanHoops. “Those would be some of my main goals.”

Mickey’s quickness allows him to hedge and show against smaller guards on screens or stretch-4′s in pick-and-pops. At 238 pounds, he also has the quickness and strength to rotate back toward the basket on pick-and-roll plays and hold his own in the paint. His wingspan also shrinks the passing window for guards hoping to find a big man rolling towards the basket.

The next step for Mickey is to become a more polished offensive player to complement his elite defensive skills.

“I’m definitely working on being consistent as a mid-range shooter,” Mickey told SheridanHoops. “I’m not taking a ton of threes right now, but I will. That’s something I’m working on, expanding my range. I’m also working on my ball handling, getting to the rim and finishing. I’m continuing to work on my post-up game and face-up game.”

At the combine, Mickey filled the stat sheet with 17 points, eight rebounds, eight blocks and two steals in 29 minutes during the first day of action.

“A lot of critics told me I wouldn’t be drafted and I’d be lucky to be drafted in the second round,” Mickey told SheridanHoops. “I just use that as motivation. When I hear those things, it makes me work harder so I can prove to people that I’m not that type of player.”

Mickey already has worked out for the Bulls, Rockets and Celtics. The Timberwolves and Spurs will join his list in the coming days, league sources tell SheridanHoops.

Previous Draft Range: Early 40’s

New Draft Range: Early 30’s – Mid 30’s

4. Rashad Vaughn, G, 6-5, 200, UNLV


Vaughn was one of the most heavily recruited high school stars in the class of 2014. At 18, he is the second-youngest player in this year’s draft behind Kentucky’s Devin Booker.

Despite his age, Vaughn showed a mature scoring prowess at UNLV. As a freshman, he averaged 18.3 points on nearly 45 percent from the floor and 38 percent beyond the arc as a freshman.

“I really like Vaughn,” one GM told SheridanHoops. “He’s a good shooter with range. He can get his own shot and is athletic.”

Vaughn has worked with trainer Drew Hanlen of Pure Sweat. Hanlen has previously worked with veterans Bradley Beal, David Lee and others. In addition, 2014 draftees Andrew Wiggins and Zach LaVine developed under his tutelage.

“Rashad and I have been working on improving his balance to increase consistency on his shot, creating separation off the bounce, using ball and pindown screens and handling pressure,” Hanlen told SheridanHoops.

A forward in college, Vaughn’s solid frame is better suited to help him mature into a shooting guard at the NBA level.

Given his age, Vaughn’s success will depend heavily on his surrounding environment. At a time when his career can be molded like clay, it will be important to have veterans to guide the talented young wing in the right direction to achieve his potential and stay out of trouble.

Vaughn already has worked out for the Heat and Pacers.

Previous Draft Range: Mid 30’s

New Draft Range: Late 20’s – Early 30’s


http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/05/29/scotto-nba-draft-stocks-of-christmas-vaughn-on-the-rise/#86IQhsaK6p6VQWEe.99

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6/1/2015  11:33 PM
Larry Brown agrees with me, according to his tweets.

Russell is not a PG who can shoot and run an NBA team.

Russell is a SG who can pass and run the hell out of the triangle.

Mudiay is a natural PG who makes everybody better....With two way potential.

WCS has impressed me more and more during each workout.....Making the knicks pick at 4 that much harder.

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6/2/2015  1:19 AM
blkexec wrote:Larry Brown agrees with me, according to his tweets.

Russell is not a PG who can shoot and run an NBA team.

Russell is a SG who can pass and run the hell out of the triangle.

Mudiay is a natural PG who makes everybody better....With two way potential.

WCS has impressed me more and more during each workout.....Making the knicks pick at 4 that much harder.


It would be a really tough call. I love Russell in the Triangle. He would be nuts in the Pinch Post or anywhere else. The role Shved had last year would be PERFECT for a player with Russell's talent. He would be in attack mode all the time rather than having to worry about running the offense. This is how the Triangle frees a Combo guard once they understand how to score in the offense and setup teammates.

WCS IMO could be a better version of Tyson. He's more agile, faster and more explosive. He runs the floor better as well. Now if you add in a decent Mid Range Jumper that's an entirely different level. As much as I love Russell, we can get another scoring Combo guard, but finding a big like WCS is not likely. They don't grow guys like that on Trees. Everywhere you look there are pretty dynamic combo guards. Heck they could grab Monta Ellis and he'd be pretty potent in the same role.

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6/2/2015  1:56 AM
blkexec wrote:Larry Brown agrees with me, according to his tweets.

Russell is not a PG who can shoot and run an NBA team.

Russell is a SG who can pass and run the hell out of the triangle.

Mudiay is a natural PG who makes everybody better....With two way potential.

WCS has impressed me more and more during each workout.....Making the knicks pick at 4 that much harder.

Yes, Larry call your Philly contacts vouch for Mudiay That stinking combo guard let NY have him you don't want to make a mistake in your own conference.

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6/2/2015  3:02 AM
The thing that negates Larry Browns praise is the fact he pushed for and praised Steve Francis back in 2006
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6/2/2015  5:31 AM
smackeddog wrote:The thing that negates Larry Browns praise is the fact he pushed for and praised Steve Francis back in 2006

the thing that negates Larry Brown praise is that he is more interested in pulling a juice card than actually recognizing and respecting potential.

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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6/2/2015  9:02 AM
Cartman718 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:The thing that negates Larry Browns praise is the fact he pushed for and praised Steve Francis back in 2006

the thing that negates Larry Brown praise is that he is more interested in pulling a juice card than actually recognizing and respecting potential.

Don't forget Larry Brown had Detroit pick Darko over Melo. Maybe the way to go is find out what he wants to do and do the opposite.

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