blkexec wrote:According to NBAdraft.net Stein isn't the only one with weaknesses. Your boy Kaminsky is projected to go at pick 17.....6 spots below Stein. These scouts have more experience than any of us.

http://hoopshype.com/draft_2015.htm

May 19, 2015 Mock

1. Towns

2. Okafor

3. Mudiay
An elite level PG with the dynamic talent to to be in the category of PGs such as Derrick Rose, John Wall and Damian Lillard. He has a terrific feel for the game, and will just need to learn to become more composed with his decision-making and shot selection. His decision to bypass college and play in China where very few scouts and GMs saw him adds an unfamiliarity that will be tough to overcome. Teams have a much smaller sample size to work with, and that could ultimately make him slide (to 4 or 5) and become the steal of the draft. Dante Exum was an even greater unknown going into last year's draft, but that leap of faith appears to be working out for Utah, which helps Mudiay's cause. He stood out in the showcase events that scouts were allowed to attend at the end of his high school career. And many viewed him, us included, as the top prospect in the class. Although he missed a good portion of the season in China due to an ankle injury, when he did play he was impressive. Some aspects of his skill set are nearly impossible to discern from his games there, including defense, but he has good defensive ability and potential. What makes him such an intriguing prospect is his fiery and competitive nature. Mudiay has great confidence, communicates well and loves to compete. Comparison John Wall.

4. Russell - NYK
Russell was the most productive and exciting freshman in the country. His feel for the game and readiness is extremely advanced. He generally doesn't blow by opponents off the dribble with sheer speed, though at times he did, but his craftiness to rock opponents off balance to create space is very good. He's proven to be an excellent three-point shooter, showing the ability to get shots off very quickly as well. While he's not an elite athlete, his excellent length and potential to play either guard position gives him a great deal of intrigue. He'll need to focus more attention on his defensive intensity. With Stephen Curry taking the world by storm in his MVP level season, players with less athleticism like Russell receive a boost. Twitter: Comparison: Position Ranking: Salary: Twitter: @Dloading Comparison: Brandon Roy

5. Porzingis - Orl
Comparison: Andrea Bargnani

6. Winslow - SAC
Comparison: James Harden

7. Stanley Johnson - DEN
Comparison: Kawhi Leonard

WCS is at 11
Kaminsky is at 17

A few things I can tell you about Kaminsky--kid has HEART kid has SKILLS kid is SMART kid is TOUGH thats good for me.

blkexec wrote:According to NBAdraft.net Stein isn't the only one with weaknesses. Your boy Kaminsky is projected to go at pick 17.....6 spots below Stein. These scouts have more experience than any of us.

http://hoopshype.com/draft_2015.htm

May 19, 2015 Mock

1. Towns

2. Okafor

3. Mudiay
An elite level PG with the dynamic talent to to be in the category of PGs such as Derrick Rose, John Wall and Damian Lillard. He has a terrific feel for the game, and will just need to learn to become more composed with his decision-making and shot selection. His decision to bypass college and play in China where very few scouts and GMs saw him adds an unfamiliarity that will be tough to overcome. Teams have a much smaller sample size to work with, and that could ultimately make him slide (to 4 or 5) and become the steal of the draft. Dante Exum was an even greater unknown going into last year's draft, but that leap of faith appears to be working out for Utah, which helps Mudiay's cause. He stood out in the showcase events that scouts were allowed to attend at the end of his high school career. And many viewed him, us included, as the top prospect in the class. Although he missed a good portion of the season in China due to an ankle injury, when he did play he was impressive. Some aspects of his skill set are nearly impossible to discern from his games there, including defense, but he has good defensive ability and potential. What makes him such an intriguing prospect is his fiery and competitive nature. Mudiay has great confidence, communicates well and loves to compete. Comparison John Wall.

4. Russell - NYK
Russell was the most productive and exciting freshman in the country. His feel for the game and readiness is extremely advanced. He generally doesn't blow by opponents off the dribble with sheer speed, though at times he did, but his craftiness to rock opponents off balance to create space is very good. He's proven to be an excellent three-point shooter, showing the ability to get shots off very quickly as well. While he's not an elite athlete, his excellent length and potential to play either guard position gives him a great deal of intrigue. He'll need to focus more attention on his defensive intensity. With Stephen Curry taking the world by storm in his MVP level season, players with less athleticism like Russell receive a boost. Twitter: Comparison: Position Ranking: Salary: Twitter: @Dloading Comparison: Brandon Roy

5. Porzingis - Orl
Comparison: Andrea Bargnani

6. Winslow - SAC
Comparison: James Harden

7. Stanley Johnson - DEN
Comparison: Kawhi Leonard

WCS is at 11
Kaminsky is at 17

now this made me laugh really hard

Comparison: Fishlips.

No thanks!

BRIGGS wrote:Someone give me a game plan on how we would defend gS with Mon roe and Stein.

You would want a roster that is flexible enough to deal with different rosters. Still it's a bit extreme to worry too much about a team you'll only face twice a year. The entire point of having WCS is to be able to defend teams like GS. Phil wants a big who can defend in space and against PnR. Monroe is going to give up some and hopefully give as good as he gets. It works both ways.

The idea is to combine more perimeter defenders with the presence of WCS and build a more effective defensive unit that can cover more ground. I'm more worried with 1st putting together a better team before I worry about the Warriors. We'll be able to tweak the roster as we go forward.

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Someone give me a game plan on how we would defend gS with Mon roe and Stein.

You would want a roster that is flexible enough to deal with different rosters. Still it's a bit extreme to worry too much about a team you'll only face twice a year. The entire point of having WCS is to be able to defend teams like GS. Phil wants a big who can defend in space and against PnR. Monroe is going to give up some and hopefully give as good as he gets. It works both ways.

The idea is to combine more perimeter defenders with the presence of WCS and build a more effective defensive unit that can cover more ground. I'm more worried with 1st putting together a better team before I worry about the Warriors. We'll be able to tweak the roster as we go forward.

No worries about The WArriors there are atleast 12 teams better than us in the east.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:wcs is to fishlips what kaminsky is to lempe

yeah right.

Theres a highlight video for drafted and undrafted players. They all look like lottery picks.

BRIGGS wrote:

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:wcs is to fishlips what kaminsky is to lempe

yeah right.

Theres a highlight video for drafted and undrafted players. They all look like lottery picks.

Actually this is a real life game and in depicts Frank Kaminsky single handily fcking up Kentucksy frontline.

don't make me pull out Sheldon Williams clips

I've made plenty of mistakes, too. I respect your opinion, but none of us have crystal balls about how these guys will turn out. It's an educated guess. If it were a science, there'd be nothing to debate.

I respect your opinion about Kaminsky - I see more Troy Murphy in him than Dirk Nowitzki, but who knows.

I see Willie Cauley Stein as an elite athlete with elite defensive skills and offensive skills that can improve to where he can reliably hit the mid-range jumper. He's not going to be asked to initiate offense. The idea that there isn't room for defensive first guys in this league is a giant fallacy. Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Tony Allen, Dennis Rodman, Trevor Ariza, etc, etc, defensive specialists have very often started for very good teams in this league and even championship teams.

Willie Cauley Stein is a full two and a half inches taller with 3 inches longer wingspan and standing reach than Jared Jeffries. He has the size to be a monster center in this league, who is also quick enough to run the full court covering Jerian Grant who was SPRINTING down court trying to get Notre Dame's final shot off. He got off a double clutch air ball because Stein ran him into the corner - a 7'1" guy who can run with a point guard and shepherd him into the corner. He's going to be a good defender.

crzymdups wrote:Briggs I remember you predicting Marcus Williams would be the best point guard in the 2006 draft. A draft that included Kyle Lowry, Rajon Rondo taken after him.

I've made plenty of mistakes, too. I respect your opinion, but none of us have crystal balls about how these guys will turn out. It's an educated guess. If it were a science, there'd be nothing to debate.

I respect your opinion about Kaminsky - I see more Troy Murphy in him than Dirk Nowitzki, but who knows.

I see Willie Cauley Stein as an elite athlete with elite defensive skills and offensive skills that can improve to where he can reliably hit the mid-range jumper. He's not going to be asked to initiate offense. The idea that there isn't room for defensive first guys in this league is a giant fallacy. Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Tony Allen, Dennis Rodman, Trevor Ariza, etc, etc, defensive specialists have very often started for very good teams in this league and even championship teams.

Willie Cauley Stein is a full two and a half inches taller with 3 inches longer wingspan and standing reach than Jared Jeffries. He has the size to be a monster center in this league, who is also quick enough to run the full court covering Jerian Grant who was SPRINTING down court trying to get Notre Dame's final shot off. He got off a double clutch air ball because Stein ran him into the corner - a 7'1" guy who can run with a point guard and shepherd him into the corner. He's going to be a good defender.

wcs without shoes 6-11.25 wingspan 7-2

Jared jefferies 6-10 winspan 7.05