Well, based on the reports, articles, and rumors the Knicks really wanted to draft a big this year, preferably Towns or Okafor. Unfortunately the lottery worked out the way it did and now the knicks are picking 4th in the draft.

If the knicks still want to pick a big why not pick Turner? He could potentially give you some of the things on offense as Kaminsky would give you and some of the things on D that Towns would give you. He has the size at 6-11 and 242 lbs plus a 7'4 wingspan and 9'4 standing reach. Looking at his frame and seeing how he has developed over the years he still has more room in his frame to fill out.

Turner is a floor Spacer with rare rim protecting ability that also rebounds at a high level. The guy avg more blks per 40(4.7) than Karl Towns and shot a better FT%(83.7). So, he fits perfectly in the triangle on O while also being able to cover on D. People say he isn't athletic but that is mainly due to how awkward he looks. I will admit he does look stiff in his lower body but who cares how he looks as long as he gets the job done. Plus, it was determine that part of the reason for his awkwardness was due to weak glutes which is something easily fixable. So as he gets stronger glutes and gain more and more flexibility he will become even more of a fluid player.

Turner had a good year at Texas but it could have been better. It can be argued that Myles Turner was not used probably at Texas and Rick Barnes has been accused of mishandling a lot of stars that go through his program. One thing that is a good sign is the success rate of Barnes big time players that are drafted. Just look at how many have had success. Some schools are just hot beds for talent and other schools you have to be weary of. If a big time player comes from Kansas, Syracuse, Arizona, and etc I look at those players with some skepticism but players from certain schools like UK, Marquette, and Texas have decent track records.

This was the 2nd ranked player in High School behind Okafor. The talent, potential, size, and skills are all there so why not Turner here in NY?

FistOfOakley wrote:there's something to like about this guy... but he's a bit perimeter happy for a young guy who's supposed to have athleticism... and when i watch him play... he looks like he doesn't want to bang down low...

the upside gets a bit limited because of that... but a guy who protects the rim and can hit a 3 is a rare commodity... the thing is at #4 we have a chance to pick someone who might be more than a super role player...

I agree with you and maybe that is him or maybe it will change with coaching. Towns was a premiter player in H.S. but when he got to UK they stuck him in the post. Turner needed similar coaching. He was stuck in a Lyles kind of role at the 4 when he should have been a 5.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Myles-Turner-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-4845/

Part of this tendency to float on the perimeter is clearly exacerbated by the situation he elected to place himself in at Texas, as the Longhorns' perimeter shooting, ball-movement and floor spacing were very inconsistent, at best. Turner played out of position at the power forward position alongside similarly sized frontcourt players who, with the exception of Jonathan Holmes (who saw his perimeter jump-shot fall apart in Big 12 play after an extremely hot start), operate almost exclusively in the paint. This congestion of big men, and the lack of creativity in which they were utilized, clearly exacerbated Turner's natural tendency to settle for jump shots and not exploit his tremendous size and length around the basket more efficiently.

I think the upside is still there if he continues to gain strength and is coach right. Plus, I do think he can help immediately as a shot blocker and floor spacer. He'll basically come in as a better shooting Pero Antic that is a legit shot blocker.

I'd consider trading down to 10 or 11 or so if someone like Indiana made a strong offer for the #4 pick... but we'd have to get a starter if we traded down that far in the deal.

I still would rather just keep it simple and take Willie Cauley Stein.

WaltLongmire wrote:
This is his game vs Kentucky on DraftExpress. Not a great game for him and he fouled out. Stein had the best game of the 3 bigs, by the way.

You mean how Stein had 21pts 12 rebs 5 steals 3blks to Turner's 6pts 5rebs?

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:
This is his game vs Kentucky on DraftExpress. Not a great game for him and he fouled out. Stein had the best game of the 3 bigs, by the way.

You mean how Stein had 21pts 12 rebs 5 steals 3blks to Turner's 6pts 5rebs?

Yeah, I'm thinking that was the game.

In Turner's defense, Towns did not have an overwhelming game, and Turner is such a young kid, but he did not stand tall for Texas in that game.

Stein is older and more seasoned than Turner for sure... but I think that will absolutely figure into the Knicks thinking in this draft. Unless they get a shot at OK4 or Mudiay blows them away, I think they'll go for an older player. Maybe Winslow, who seems mature for his age and with his head screwed on right. But I think guys like Stein and Kaminsky will appeal to the Knicks because they're more NBA ready. That could be a mistake of course, it's the sort of thinking that led them to select Frye over Bynum in 2005, etc.

WaltLongmire wrote:I think you and I differ on Kaminsky, but that's OK...

because I know I'm always right.

I've gone back and forth on Kaminsky and Mudiay like crazy. I don't envy the Knicks.

The only players I feel airtight about knowing they'll be great starters, buy maybe not "stars" are Willie Cauley Stein and Jerian Grant. I guarantee we'll see those two dudes starting on playoffs teams in 2 or 3 years or less.

Whether that will be for the Knicks is another story...