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CrushAlot
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5/25/2015  12:34 PM
Hoopshype has him off the books for next year. Begley said his deal becomes partially guaranteed on August 1st.
. Ricky Ledo's contract of $947,276 becomes partially guaranteed in August.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62094/knicks-2015-cap-space-may-increase-to-27-million?ex_cid=espnapi_public
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5/25/2015  12:47 PM
We actually signed him late last year and he's our property unless Phil were to renounce him. I don't see the need since renouncing his contract is not going to give us anymore cap space, due to a cap hold that would be added with him gone. He's essentially a Knicks until they decide otherwise. I think it was a smart signing.
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5/25/2015  1:24 PM
Contract Notes:
2015 $100k guaranteed if not waived on or before 7/31/15, $200k guaranteed if on opening day roster


http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/ricky-ledo/
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5/25/2015  1:25 PM
I'd waive Ledo. Unless we're able to trade Timmy, then I guess Ledo becomes slightly less redundant.
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5/25/2015  1:30 PM
knickscity wrote:Contract Notes:
2015 $100k guaranteed if not waived on or before 7/31/15, $200k guaranteed if on opening day roster


http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/ricky-ledo/

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5/25/2015  1:31 PM
crzymdups wrote:I'd waive Ledo. Unless we're able to trade Timmy, then I guess Ledo becomes slightly less redundant.
I am hoping Hardaway gets moved on draft night for a pick or in a package for a pick.
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5/25/2015  1:40 PM
crzymdups wrote:I'd waive Ledo. Unless we're able to trade Timmy, then I guess Ledo becomes slightly less redundant.

Ledo is more of a passer than THJ. I think he could eventually develop into a useful reserve. I'm hoping he's working on his strength and conditioning right now. Cheap young talent is still good to have around.
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5/25/2015  1:42 PM
crzymdups wrote:I'd waive Ledo. Unless we're able to trade Timmy, then I guess Ledo becomes slightly less redundant.

Ledo costs next to nothing in guaranteed salary. Why not evaluate him over the summer league and in camp? Why so quick to want to dump guys for nothing and then also so quick to blasting management for dumping guys for low return?
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5/25/2015  1:55 PM
Ledo doesnt make a dent on the cap, makes no sense waiving him. keep him around and see if he can develop into a piece to have for the future.
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5/25/2015  2:40 PM
It really doesn't matter one way or another,. Ledo sucked and it's not like someone is going to pay him more than the min.
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5/25/2015  3:17 PM
foosballnick wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I'd waive Ledo. Unless we're able to trade Timmy, then I guess Ledo becomes slightly less redundant.

Ledo costs next to nothing in guaranteed salary. Why not evaluate him over the summer league and in camp? Why so quick to want to dump guys for nothing and then also so quick to blasting management for dumping guys for low return?

Just my own opinion that guys like Shumpert and Lin were worth keeping and developing rather than giving away and that Ledo is not. I've certainly been wrong before.

At this point, if it were possible to move Timmy for an actual asset, I would understand the appeal of keeping Ledo around. Perhaps that's the plan - if so, I'm on board with it.

As for blasting management - the only team that has lost more games than the Knicks since 2000 is the T'Wolves and that losing has at least netted them a nucleus of Towns/Okafor, Wiggins, Rubio, Pek, Zach Levine, Shabazz Muhammed, Kevin Garnet, Gary Neal, etc. That's a really good young roster. We have Melo and maybe Galloway and a bunch of question marks and hopefully a nice young player with the 4th pick. Based on Phil's trades so far, I am extremely nervous about the draft and free agency. I am not trying to be overly negative, but I do feel he is making basketball decisions based on an extremely narrow and inflexible rubric and we've already seen the failings in that. He didn't value Tyson or Shumpert or JR and so we got nothing for them. They've proven to be valuable players to other teams, if flawed (which they certainly are), but they have value to other teams. Yet we gave them away. Dallas, for instance, owns the 21st pick in the draft. How did we not get that for Tyson? Cleveland sent two picks for Mozgov. How did we not get one of those for Shumpert and JR? Cleveland made that trade first, implying it was the more important trade to them.

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5/25/2015  4:38 PM
I'm gonna go with and trust the instincts of Phil rather than the guessing of media guys and some fans who really have never been part of any winning organization and Phil has been part of winning teams and revamping of rosters in his career. It's so premature to base any kind of final judgment off his time on the job so far. This is the best situation to judge Phil off of since he has a pick and cap space to actually get something done.

We don't know what our prospects will turn into. Shved, Gallo, Early, Thanasis, THJ, Ledo, Cole, Wear, Acy are all still developing role players. We'll be adding our #4 pick to that group. Hopefully this pick will be the best player we've brought in thru the draft since Ewing. I think the pessimism is a bit over the top at times. The Media I can understand but for us fans who have lived with the team over the decades, we should all know this process is not easy in NY. We couldn't do what Hinkie did in Philly. We have a totally different market here and an owner who isn't that patient.
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5/25/2015  7:43 PM
i loved this kid in the little i saw of him this spring. i hope we keep him for cheap
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5/25/2015  7:51 PM
callmened wrote:i loved this kid in the little i saw of him this spring. i hope we keep him for cheap

I'm pretty sure the Knicks have him in the developmental pipeline. He needs a summer where they tear him down and build him back up physically. He needs some serious body work. The raw talent is there if he can get in prime NBA shape. Ledo was somewhat forgotten in Dallas. I think he let his conditioning slip. He was clearly not in NBA shape when he got here. I think he can take his conditioning up a few notches and that could really help him at this level.
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5/25/2015  9:25 PM
Have to say that I was not overly impressed with him, although he had enough good moments for me to think that he deserved another look. Must be tough coming in on those 10 day deals- the pressure can be good for a player's performance, but coming in less than perfect shape was not a good start.

Hopefully his general fitness has improved when we see him next- whether or not is in better shape and has worked on correcting weaknesses in his game will tell us more about his character and desire than whether he is actually able to play in the NBA, but it is a start and an indication that he really wants to be on this team, and in the NBA.

Knicks are a roster of opportunity for guys like Ledo, and I have no issue with him being given a chance to prove himself in SL, but if he looks like he hasn't worked on his body or game when we see him on day one, I wouldn't have much patience with him because that would show me he does not care.

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5/26/2015  9:54 AM
The kid definitely has the talent. Showed flashes of legit NBA caliber play. Needs to work on conditioning. I personally believe his he already better than THJ. Gets to the basket and draws fouls pretty easily
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5/26/2015  10:10 AM
not really worried about waiving the one of th ened of the bench guys who has upside... he's not making anything. who is a better option?
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