the only time the Marbury trade can be (from a Knicks fan viewpoint) veiwed as bad is IF Lampe attains All Star status.

they didn't use this years pick and even if we were using the second pick we gave them- whenever it goes to them- and they pick an all star player- you can't really hold that in judgement- its too far out in the future and subject to too many variables

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Posted by franco12:

the only time the Marbury trade can be (from a Knicks fan viewpoint) veiwed as bad is IF Lampe attains All Star status.

they didn't use this years pick and even if we were using the second pick we gave them- whenever it goes to them- and they pick an all star player- you can't really hold that in judgement- its too far out in the future and subject to too many variables

I disagree, even if Lampe becomes an all-star (which is possible) I think it still would've been a good trade for us. Marbury in about a year or two will be the best at his position. How often can you get a player like that by only giving up a rookie and vets that are past their prime along with an unproven PG playing in Europe? Yes we also gave two first round picks but seriously, do you guys really think Kirk Snyder will be a better player than Stephon? By the time Phoneix has to use our other first round pick we will probably be a better team and that pick will most likely not be a lottery pick at all. I think any way you look at it, we benefited greatly by doing this deal.

I agree. The Stephon trade is straight up a good trade.

In my opinion, this trade is a GOOD trade regardless of the potential development of lets say Lampe and/or Meatloaf Vujanic( provided he finds his way to the states)

Stephon Marbury is an allstar talent, arguably the 2nd best pg in the league behind J-Kidd and is NYC's hometown baller.. You couldn't ask for a better floor general outside of J-Kidd. People get hung up on his scoring mentality.. but so what? This is a cat that has an avg of like 20 and 8 for a career that aint bad at all.

Then there are the people who are vexed about losing the 16th pick in this yrs draft?? SO WHAT??? Steph is better than all the guards in this years draft.. All the players chosen in this draft are hit and miss.. STEPHON is proven!

marbury trade was just straight up a sweet deal for us

nice post nalod. You said it, if we start winning, then we'll know how good this trade will have been.

I personaly think that I got a taste of what could be if IT stick to his vision of building a contender.

This "cat" is eager to prove himself wherever he goes.

Only those who try have a chance to win, and this trade was, at least, a try.

A fairly good btw.

I agree with the sentiment.. "its all about wins and loses" YES!!! But that being said, you can't place such a burden on Stephon Marbury to produce as an individual. It takes a collaborative effort..

The reason im high on the Marbury trade is because it gives NYK one of the key components to winning a championship. I don't care who tells you otherwise.. All championship caliber teams (With the exception of MJ's Bulls) had/have a dominant low post man and a backcourt orchestrator.

Steph Starbury gives NYK a true playmaker in the backcourt.. I also think Stats can be misleading as well, but that applies to marginal players everyone has seen Stephs talents proven consistantly, even throughout his being ridiculed as a "shoot first pg" . His 20 and 8 matter!

Bottom line is... Even if Lampe and Kirk Snyder somehow do become allstars, this trade was still of great benefit to NY. WHY??? because when J-Kidd retires we will undoubtedly have the best point guard in the league, moreover we won't have to wait on those products to develop. We already have an allstar caliber shooting guard when healthy so drafting Snyder probably wouldn't have happened anyway @ 16 for NYK.

People talk about Lampe and Vujanic... like they were gonna be saviors of NY??? Maciej Lampe is young and is gonna need at least 3 PLUS more years to be at the level where most on these boards project.. AND thats if he ever reaches that level. I doubt he'll be Dirk Nowitzki.. in fact i don't think we'll ever see another Dirk prototype.. Dont believe the hype. As for Meatloaf Vujanic.. we see that he aint gone ever come to the US. Bringing Steph home (The Proven Commodity) will help NYK faster than playing the waiting game on draft hopefuls. At least, now this core of Knicks have become more enjoyable to watch. The addition of Starbury was the right move, he compliments Houston as one of the more potent backcourts in the NBA. IF we some how find a dominant low post man (Isiah works his Magic).. We'll be contenders once again!!! The other pieces are in place.

FYI Kirk Snyder is another Courtney Alexander player.. he's good but not great.. drafting him wasn't what NY needed! We more than likely would have gone Big. IMO

We gave up a lot, and Lampe and Milos might turn out to be good NBA players, but it's still a good trade for us. You get a top 3 PG, and he can turn out to be the best in the league in 3 years. You don't give up on players like that. Plus, Penny still has something in him. We have just as much a chance of winning a championship with Marbury, down the road, as we did with Milos and Lampe, in 5 years.