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RonRon
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5/14/2015  5:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2015  5:22 PM
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Odell Beckham Jr. To Be On Cover Of Madden 16
MAY 13, 2015 7:01 PM


Odell Beckham Jr. will be on the cover of Madden 16, winning a fan vote.

Beckham beat out Rob Gronkowski to receive the honor.

Beckham had an outstanding rookie season in 2014 for the New York Giants.

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have a couple questions, for the ones that know and understand the sport very well, with experience playing FOOTBALL in high school or some level, along with knowing the Giants roster and moves this summer...


Let me start by saying I am not very knowledgeable in the football, though I have some idea of NFL players due to fantasy sports but would not recognize sets/schemes the strenghts/weakness of the opponents CB/Safteys etc... how to break it down, per matchup/strength weakness


1- How is our OFFENSIVE LINE, hope it is improved as I know we will have to play to a similiar philsosophy that Brady did in the SuperBowl by getting rid of the football very quickly *a reason I love the addition of Vareen while able to steal some plays/philosophies of the master of spycheating* versus Defenses like Seahawks, Bills, Jets, Dolphins, not sure if San Fran? Detroit?

2- How is our DEFENSE, do we have youth/veterans to pressure the better OFF lines to stop the run and pass? Did we improve signfigantly and be able to get to the QB like we did with Brady with only our 4 rushers?
Also, do not understand why some kickers make so much more money while they are important, New England is overpaying for a Kicker no? Yes I know he punts and kicks FG but seriously a kicker?
It is money not well spent, rather try to draft a young kicker or a veteran, like the kicker for Seahawks, Rams, Cowboys, Chargers, Packers, and Saints, though I do not know if they have switched kickers this off season, while being able to save a roster spot for more depth, but think you will need 2 capable kickers in each game to hold a spot because of possible injuries anyway? I know some teams only have 1 kicker and sign one after they get hurt though but is that 1 spot really that important to overpay for a kicker?

3- ELi's contract will expire soon and he makes about 10m per year, with BIG BRO earning close to double that at some point, while many QB's are making in the range of 100m - 120m, at over 20m a year while Eli took much less with the higher taxes and cost of living with our property in NY, a reason why Collin's, signed with the Cowboys as an undrafted FA/OFF LINE man, are we likely to keep him or possibly get someone on a future draft or do we have anyone that could contribute/develop right now? I remember we use to have a solid back up for Eli with "potential at some point" that never really got to play, forgot if it was Davis Carr/Brady Quin or someone else like that?
I do not understand how the NFL structure works for contracts and when their contract will end for new negatiations/lock out, if their are vet mins pickups/cap holds like for NBA?
But if we keep Eli, are we likely to overpay for him considering he won 2 rings with us and we have a WR like Beckham now that played very well together despite our lack of talent and injuries?


4- Which CURSE is the strongest for injuries? the Madden CURSE or NBA 2k, NBA Live, or another game/sport?


5- The RB's have changed, choosing to go for cheaper younger contracts by commitee, as the workhorse RB eventually becomes too riskey due to the nature of the sport and risk of injury/age/contracts that could be better spent in a QB and receiver league *could be TE or 2 TE sets*
Thought we could have taken a look at Nate Robinson who has great speed/quickeness and is very strong and athletic, though older, he could be brought for cheap, as well as the RB just traded to the Jets from Arizona for a 7th rounder


Are 2 TE's set coming out of the Full Back's position or another position, or even 3 TE's, with one more for blocking purposes
Is Percy Harvin an option that we could take a look at? Do we have any money left to spend? Do we have any future extra draft picks coming or going out in the future to use?
As a cheap TE, I thought The Chargers backup TE was a decent talent for cheap, that was the backup to Gates for a couple of seasons ago, along with former Bills TE that went to the Pats this summer...
Are we better off keeping our own TE's currently who will be FA's after this season?


TE
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Larry Donnell *Exclusive Rights Free Agent about 600k FA I believe, don't know what pick we would get or how it works or what it means*
He was undrafted but Eli became very selective throwing to him, sometimes not targetting him at all, I feel the TE should always be looked at, at least one of em, as a saftey target who can likely catch hard catches and take a hit, especially vs Defenses that can hit hard and are quick/strong like the Birds...

Dann Fells also FA at about 900k
Adrien Robinson final year of his 4year deal


Jerome Cunningham ?????
Matt LaCosse *signed a 3year deal*

Kickers for FG/PUNT
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Place Kicker
1- Josh Brown Signed a two-year, $2.6 million contract. Another $500,000 is available through incentives. Brown is eligible for annual $225,000 roster bonuses and $25,000 workout bonuses in each season. 2015: $1 million, 2016: Free Agent

Place Kicker
2- Chris Boswell 1/7/2015: Signed a reserve/future contract


I am glad we do not pay 5m for a Kicker

Stephen Gostkowski
3/6/2015: Signed a one-year, $4.59 million contract. The deal is fully guaranteed. 2016: Free Agent


He was payed big buckers prior to this one year deal as well, while they did't want to keep Revis because of $$$?
I don't know but maybe he doesn't require needles for his kicks so he deserves more?
What is suprising is that Tom Brady makes NOTHING compared to what these QB's are making now

2/25/2013: Signed a five-year, $60 million contract. The deal is fully guaranteed, including $30 million in signing bonus payments scattered over the first three years. 2015: $7 million, 2016: $8 million, 2017: $9 million, 2018: Free Agen


Is Aaron Hernandaz's contract affecting Pat's contract in anyway possible? As it is a "contract" though not sure if the violation of the law and him not being able to attend games allows him to get any % of the money from the guaranteed portion...

Even if they do not need to pay him but affects their salary cap, I think it is messed up, add in the punishments for flateGATE and those punishments could be the difference in seeing Brady for a chance to contend for another year or 2 with those picks and without an appeal for 4 games out of 17 game schedule?
Is the bye week considered a week or not cause they have a bye on week 4, so not sure if Brady could come back at game 5 or 6???
Who the hell is going to be their CB's? Saftey?

6- For Giants vs Jets, which team is better outside of the QB position with the Jets or Giants?
And who will likely finish the season, the QB they just selected, the poor mans Vick, Geno Smith, Fitz, Bryce Petty, Matt Simms, or another future talent for the Jets?
In the start of last season while we were struggling, I thought it was time for Tom Coflin to go, as they needed a new voice, with many of the older veterans that praised him, are gone already and our DEFENSE was horrible, until Backham gave us hope
Then our CB's got back healthy and didn't look as bad, while being possibly better with some addition/tweaks if improved this summer, judging from what I saw last season
For some stretches they looked like they were a "GOOD" defensive team about 3 games in, I think about week 4-7, around that?


How is the OFF line and RB with Giants vs Jets? I think Jets got a solid RBs by committee as well, I like Ivory/Powell and the trade with Arizona for a 7th rounder with Zack Stacy/Richarson...
Though the QB difference is HUGE, unless the Rookie, Bryce Petty


Backham >>> Marshall at his age, I love Marshall but 1 hand catches at that rate is SWEET!
I would love to get a BIG WR like Marshall or Ashon Jeffrey despite injury concerns, think we payed a bit too much for Dwayne Harris, rather spend more for Marshall or another WR or TE for Bennett again which Bears wanted to save money on as they probably are doing a full rebuild, waiting for Cutler to expire and do not want to pay for Forte either


Was Eli underpaid?, considering he has won the most rings outside of Brady who makes even less ironicially in addition to a 4 game suspension with no pay that might have made a difference in previous years and The Ravens game this past year
Looking at all these QB's that make 20m + though I think Eli Manning is like young Jamal Crawford for NBA vs NFL, meaning he has his weakness's and when he is HOT, HE IS HOT, but he can TO the ball a lot in his career

Though he can throw very good passes that require very good WR's with great timing/chemistry to catch them, and he can easily lose trust in a player as well as gain trust with his WR in his past years like
he did with HAKEEM NICKS, Manningham prior to injuries, Bradshaw *RB*, Victor Cruz, and now Manningham
He had did with the 2 TE's when we won the last Superbowl but they got injured, while he could get hot/cold with some decent talents as well with Larry Donnell and prior TE's with Bennet, and not so well with Jeremy Shockey for the most part...


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RonRon
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5/14/2015  5:20 PM
Beckham really saved a lot of jobs, including GM and HC, Tom Coughlin, he could be The Jordan for NFL, is there ANYONE that has shown the ability to consistently catch 1 had catches as he does so easily???
It is UN REAL!


He is a first round pick for sure for NFL, though we do not know how many targets he will get, as it could possibly go down much, as he broke many records despite missing games to start to season but also lossed our former #1 WR that will need to get back in NFL shape now and find a way to fit in, shouldn't be a problem as he should get the looks he got the first season when Hakeem KNICKS was a GIANT and a regarded as a TIER 1 WR due to his previous season along with Manningham as well who was thought to be the #2

He changed the entire locker room and gave us home for the future, along with great exciting FOOTBALL after our #1 WR went down with his salsa dance moves
Saving the jobs of many from coaching staff to even the futures of players with the possible BEST ACTIVE WR with his connection with Eli
When ELi has an elite WR that has both physical abilities, 1 hand catching of that caliber is F UNREAL, ability to run for yards after catch, and Eli can throw very hard catches though he needs talents that can trust, like the Mario Manningham catch that secured our 2nd Super Bowl in which he was only able to catch and was both a great throw in the clutch
Personally, I think that catch was more impressive, while staying in bounds, timely jump, and not worrying about the contact that he couldon't focus on while he just made it to winning catch
We added a team by committee RB with depth with the addition of with Shane Vareen from the Pats to play both RB and WR which would be the RB that would be making the most money

RBs
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Andre Williams
Rshard Jennings
Shane Vareen

I would like to be able to play 2 TE sets and think the FULL BACK postition is kind of a waste IMO
Would have liked to taken Jordan Camaron though he was a bit pricey given his injury and hard to evaluate him on top of being on a team with no QB, OFF Line, and lack of talent like Cleveland
Juluis Thomas from brother to brother would have been great too, not sure if he is a good blocker
Would have welcomed back fromer TE who is a FA in 2017 which I feel Eli Manning underutilized
When we won, we had to very good 2-3 TE's that were very efficient and usually did not get many targets but were very clutch and had GREAT hands that were highly intelligent and always ready to make a play despite low usuage which is hard to do, with solid blocking for Eli
I do not know why but Eli is very streaky with his TE's, I felt over his career he seemed to not get along with a lot of other TE's or not target them despite having no options and having the TE as a security target as he is usually a big target with great size/athleticism/length
I know we do not need a RB but anyone think Nate Robinson could play RB or another position wit his speed/quickness/athleticism and strength, though isn't "young" anymore, he is very JACKED UP and cut, wit a lot of heart and willingness to work in the gym and on the court

Also if we didn't go for a TE or was capapble of adding a BIG target with hands like a Brandon Marshall that could block and catch 1v1 out of binds and punnish smarller CB's

Beckham *is RIDCIOUSLOUS, I watched NFL quite late, but never have I seen so many 1 hand catches made with that type of presision, that could make him the best WR of ALL TIME without THE CURSE PLEASE GOD
Victor Cruz as the slot WR *though do not know what to expect out of him post surgery and how much speed/quickness it will take both physically and mentally


Rueben Randle or another WR as our 3rd, though not a Brandon Marshall, could continue to improve with the rest of our core?

Dwayne Harris *is Harris worth that much money for a 5year, 17.5m commitment stealing him from the Cowboys, Thought both Terrence Williams and Cole Beasley were far superior players than Harris but like I said, I do not know much about NFL and Football, while he was a backup/rotation WR/punt returner
especially with the signing of Vareen, I don't know but I speculate this move, would have much rather spend it on another position...

Vareen playing some WR


Corey Washington - has good size at 6-4 but hasn't produced on paper
Preston Parker played some decent games for us at times


Future WR's from this draft? Actually didn't realize these guys have decent size, though don't know how they did in college football...

Geremy Davis | Wide Receiver
Team: New York Giants
Age / DOB: (23) / 1/10/1992
Ht / Wt: 6'2' / 216
College: Connecticut
Contract: view contract details

Juron Criner | Wide Receiver
Team: New York Giants
Age / DOB: (25) / 12/12/1989
Ht / Wt: 6'3' / 220
College: Arizona


Marcus Harris | Wide Receiver
Team: New York Giants
Age / DOB: (25) / 8/1/1989
Ht / Wt: 6'1' / 187
College: Murray State
Contract: view contract details[x]
1/1/2014: Signed a reserve/future contract.
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A Giants assistant coach told NJ.com's Jordan Raanan that Marcus Harris was the team's "best receiver" in 2014 training camp and preseason.
Keep in mind Odell Beckham was out with a hamstring injury at this time, but Raanan has been beating Harris' drum for awhile. The Giants were reportedly considering starting Harris before he suffered a year-ending shoulder injury late last August. Undrafted out of Murray State in 2011, Harris stands 6-foot-1, 189 with an underwhelming 33-inch vertical. He does have solid agility scores, which suggests Harris could excel in the slot. Mar 27 - 1:33 PM


Julian Talley | Wide Receiver
Team: New York Giants
Age / DOB: (25) / 6/9/1989
Ht / Wt: 6'1' / 192
College: Massachusetts
Contract: view contract details
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Giants promoted WR Julian Talley from the practice squad.
A second-year undrafted free agent out of UMass, Talley has never appeared in an NFL game. His promotion is a sign Victor Cruz (concussion, sprained knee) won't suit up for Week 16. Tue, Dec 17, 2013 04:32:00 PM

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1- Henry Hynoski - Signed a two-year, $2.1 million contract. The deal contains $500,000 guaranteed, including a $250,000 signing bonus. 2015: $775,000 (+ $25,000 workout bonus), 2016: $1.025 million (+ $25,000 workout bonus), 2017: Free Agent,

Is FULL back better for blocking for the RUN because they are lower to the ground and heavey/strong over TE's
If not, I think TE's are just better with their size/to block and possibliy catch the ball with athleticism/length/jump balls/and take a hit....

2- Nikita Whitlock can come in and perform or Fitzpatrick is able to stay healthy, as I do not trust GeNOOOOO
7- Eli Manning is making 17m on his final year, do we and can we extend him now, or does ELi have more incentive to sign a contract after the season ends, like how LA/Greg Monroe/Marc Gasol and others are gambling to get a 5year deal instead of a 3-4year deal in the NBA?

What positions do we need upgrades/depth at for both OFFENSE/DEFENSE?
Should we overpay and do Manning right and pay him 20m + each season as he delivered 2 SuperBowls to us while BIG BRO is by far the better QB but makes double that?
Or should we screw it and try to save money, draft a talent next year, and spend the money to improve our roster elsewhere to make us elite outside of QB?
IF so by drafting a QB in the 2nd or later rounds, not a TOP 5 QB, *I Know 1st rounders still make a lot of money but first 5 could make 10m+*, would it allow us to be elite in both OFF and DEFENSE outside of QB, assuming we are able to draft the next Russell Wilson and sign a younger Fitzpatrick or someone of that caliber with backup money at 3-5m a year...


8- How does the Salary cap work? Is there a certain amount you are eligible to spend for OFFENSE, DEFENSE, and Special TEam's? Do we have to use the roster spots/practice squad a certain way?
We need some positive NY energy and I am not in to Hockey, though they are one round away from Stanley Cup?

What happens to the picks that The Patriots could lose go to?
Do they, the GM's and Owners, go in *blind* auction and sold to everyone but Pats? What happened to the prevoius scandels? With the Bounty Scandal in the Saints?

Should we be concerned about the Madden NFL/NBA 2k Curse?

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