Both stars think there 40+ points is way to win playoffs and beat foes into ground
Aint a formula for Team basketball winning.

The Rockets disregard for defensive details other than Dwight are example you can ride
bearded star to big NBA party but unless the same individual does other leadership things
Your team can't win NBA championships.

In case of Cavs Kyrie more talented chucker version of Allen Iverson,
I know he pi__ss's Lebron off, dont get caught in crap L.James the passing Point forward, PG
Whatever, ..LBJ knows it is team game got him 2 rings.

Kyrie how can in hell you star in NBA to play vital playoff game and get 0
Assists is beyond me?????????

Even the maligned Carmelo A. #7 gets more than 0 assist in NBA big games in his sleep riding the bench.
Carmelo offers more D than Beardy Harden and Melo isn't a defender.

Stats guys tick me off but I root on Chi Bulls
And any NBA western teams vs. Houston Rockets.

Series aint over. Mr Harden continues to try and stir pot for your team losses
But loved outcomes

NBA I love this game!

smackeddog wrote:James Harden has no heart, much like Dwight Howard

He has a "brand," though- his beard- and that's all that matters.

WaltLongmire wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Irving has shown a more of an all around game at times as the season progressed. You're right that zero assists won't cut it. Was LeBron taking over the game like he did last time? That could be part of it.

The problem is that LeBron HAS to take over the game.

You get the feeling that James would be OK with Irving playing the right way and making everyone around him better, but if Kyrie doesn't do this, James will step up.

Irving has some value to his team if he shoots 3/12 and has 7 assists, but 0 assists in all the minutes he plays?

I agree, Love is out and JR was suspended for two games. Thought it might explain the lack of assists. LeBron apparently told Irving that he cant have another game with zero assists so James didnt see it as an excuse.

RonRon wrote:Ariza would have been better had he stayed with a PG like John Wall who uses his ability to penetrate to consistently set up his team
I think Danny Green is comparable to what Ariza needs, other top TIER talents to initate the OFFENSE, and he is a glue guy to play off those players while providing 3pt spacing/defense/rebounding/ blocks/steals and another FT shooter to finish games
Though Harden has great ability to penetrate as well, he looks to score 1st and faciltiate 2nd

Wall >>> Westbrook as PG

I have compared CA to what Monta Ellis is who has made 8m and less, he took less and when teamed up with other players he would be better and fit....
CA is a volume scorer, isn't a good defender/rebounder/leader and isn't young, so it is hard to build around him knowing his weakness's with our lack of other talents and future draft picks

I think we will eventually have to trade CA for the better of the Knicks and CA's future as well, we are unlikely to compete till at least 2017 with CA contract, and I am not sure if TOP TIER FA's will be attracted to playing with CA as he takes a huge portion of our cap as well

It is quite possible that Morey might be make us a decent trade offer, while CA will make more money with Houston having NO STATE TAX and a trade kicker, while being able to compete for a RING right away, with Harden drawing double/triple teams, and CA will not have to use much energy as he does with the NYK's, while they also have multiple defenders next season to fit in as well as the MLE to acquire talents with vet min steals for the chance to compete for a ring and make more money with no state tax, advancing to play offs

Agreed about the J.Wall point and Ariza being better off.
agree with all the good points here made about the topic

Even Westbrook you mentioned seem to get it after awhile, sure he had moments when he threw up ridiculous shots
but Russell had no KDurant and I'd take R.Westbrook on Knicks over either Harden & Kyrie , any day of the week.
Westbrook worst nights this improved season he had at least 5-8 assists per games and tries to take care of his
less skilled Thunder Teammates.

Dont get me wrong on Harden or Kyrie they both earned superstar status, I respect their part of their games which are good
but other parts of their games dont cut it with me.

Kyrie is younger and he may get it if he allows himself to Let Lebron teach him and change his philosophy that he
must score extra , he must reign in 3's to be effective as oppossed to working on his assist/passing and D' a bit.
Especially D' on less talented guards than himself. D.Rose is example of Kyrie's Equal and perhaps many like myself
sees D.Rose as better in his career than Irving even with Rose up/down injuries and problems being healthy.

D.Rose is inspirational and plays the game the RIGHT WAY.

Going back to Harden Mr. BEARDY, All you need to do is go back to the THUNDER arrival in NBA and challenging
NBA's HEAT for championship. Harden was rising star and not the player then he is now .

In the Miami HEAT series vs Big 3, Dwade slapped some old fashion recipe called "Defense" on Beardy Harden
and OKC was done, finished kaput.. Westbrook and Durant could do but so much in that series, even though KD
didnt have a stellar series he made some impacts then to be competitive.

Harden is like Dwight Howard, you play them hard within rules of NBA hoops
and these guys fold up their tents easy, aint fighters to fight for what is called championship runs.

That is why I could care less for Players like Harden and Dwight whom seem their interests in themselves
their ego's and $$$, anything but team.

The trueness of competitor is when you get knocked down, and how you get back up to earn respect of your competition.

Throw in as-bin' coach hailed as Kevin McHale the most overrated of the leaders of that Rocket team.

Lets see what guts this Rocket teams has the rest of the way.
I dont like the Clippers either but respect CP3 and coach Doc, however they should win this series
and I can appreciate the fight, the grit and wit of LA Clippers led by Doc, CP3 and Blake.

They've learned well from Spurs series and that's all you need to know.
:)
*grins