KT needs to be used to trade for an asset this team could use while he still has some value, otherwise he's going to end up being another player that's eating up cap space for the next 4 years...

a young player like Jamal Crawford if possible would be great, or to get a future 1st round pick & an ending contract to use in other deals next season...

Nazr & Sweetney are capable of manning the PF position if KT is traded...& Nazr's contract will be expiring after next year too, which makes him a nice trading chip to have as well after this season...

it's all about using these guys as chips to improve the team's future...they aren't the pieces to a championsip puzzle regardless...if you can use them to help you get players who will eventually help you get there, that's how i think Isiah should do it.

Posted by TMS:


it's all about using these guys as chips to improve the team's future...they aren't the pieces to a championsip puzzle regardless...if you can use them to help you get players who will eventually help you get there, that's how i think Isiah should do it.

Very interesting take on things. I tend to agree. Sign or trade for picks and reasonable salaried players who can be used as trade bait. I think that's shorthand for "Patchwork", so hopefully Isiah is thiking the same thing.

Yes we do have tons of depth inside, but they are all borderline bench player, starters. These guys would make an incredible bench, but as starters they are nothing special. None of these guys are rock solid.

Mutt can only play limited minutes, Kurt more often then not gets into foul problems, plus he's undersized, Nazir is also inconsistent and undersized, and Sweets is unproven.

Now you supplement our big men with one solid player that can play the 4 and 5 and things will happen.

Hopefully Kurt +? might bring us that player.

Posted by Elite:

Now i nkow kurt thomas cant be the best front line player on your team if you want to win.. but lets face it.. he IS our best front line player... so why is everyone saying ditch him ditch him.. hes the only player on our whole roster that plays D besides mutumbo.. i mean if u can get something VALUBLE for him in return.. sure.. improve the team... but everyones like oh hes gotta go hes one of our better plays not one of the worse ones

Go back into the playoffs vs the Nets and look how Kenyon Martin ate Kurt Thomas for lunch especially game 4. MArtin had over 36 pts and 13 rebounds.

The Knicks need a lethal post-up Power Forward that demands the double team. Kurt Thomas is not quick and does not demand a double team. Look @ the Pistons vs Nets. Martin was having problems with Rasheed Wallace.

Kurt Thomas is a 6th man. I don't want a declining 32 year old wannabe enforcer at PF. I'd take Antonio McDyess and Mike Sweetney over KT.

Kurt Thomas injured his pinky, not his entire hand. It's still no excuse for his disgraceful performance against New Jersey. KT played soft and scared. He's supposed to be our enforcer yet he allowed the Nets to bully us around. Where was he when Jason Kidd knocked down Frank Williams? Where was he when Jason Collins took Tim Thomas out of the series? KT is a fugazy enforcer. Not to mention he ducked and got out of the way every time Kenyon Martin went to the hoop.

Besides Shandon Anderson, I want KT gone ASAP.

[Edited by - bigapplestar3 on 07/04/2004 10:47:06]

Kurt's numbers actually improved in the playoffs, and in the elimination game he had 14 points, 15 rebound, and a block so it's not as if he just bailed out on the Knicks.

Where were any of the Knicks when any of this happened? TT getting knocked down, Frank got up and knocked Kidd down so I'm not sure what the point is there. Fact of the matter is the Knicks got badly beat by the Nets, KT is no more accountable than Marbury.

KT is a good frontcourt player with limited abilites. He's an above average rebounder, has a good jump shot, and is a very good defender. That being said, he isn't athletic, doesn't block shots, has no post game, and isn't going to be a main threat on offense. He'd be fantastic on the Spurs (with Duncan), the T'Wolves, etc., where teams have a great post player, and he could complement them. Putting KT in the Knicks system as their best big man shows both his strengths and flaws.

He's 31 now, and it's time he be traded becuase his value can't get any higher. That'd be the only reason why I'd deal him.

the reason why we must trade Kurt is because of the growth of Sweetney. With Kurt on our roster, he would slow Sweetney's progress considerably.

Posted by Elite:

yall are too hard on KT.. he was injured and he still played pretty well it wasent like he diddnt try.. martin is more athletic.. and better overall... but unless we can improve at KT position why trade him for another gaurd??? dont make sense... even if houston is done... front court D is more important than back court O

Posted by Elite:

yall are too hard on KT.. he was injured and he still played pretty well it wasent like he diddnt try.. martin is more athletic.. and better overall... but unless we can improve at KT position why trade him for another gaurd??? dont make sense... even if houston is done... front court D is more important than back court O

I agree 100%. And when sweetney's ready to start, he will start. You can tell Isiah is very loyal to him. Kurt won't interfere at all with Sweetney.