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Bonn1997
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5/3/2015  2:25 PM
I thought this deserved a thread. It would be nice to know exactly what's in his contract. I saw one report that the contract says the Yankees have complete discretion in determining whether the milestone was marketable but the other reports I'm seeing don't think the Yankees have a legal case. It's hard to believe A-Rod's agent would let a clause go i the contract that says the Yankees have complete discretion here. Either way, the Steinbrenners come out looking bad, while A-Rod is playing well and acting professionally.
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5/3/2015  3:34 PM
I thought that was an absurd contract they offered Arod at the time..They added more folly by including Milestone bonuses..I have no sympathy for the Yanks..They bend us over at the Ballpark and on our Cable bills to help fund the out of control spiraling of baseball contracts. There is no end in sight..6 mil bonus because they thought they could milk us for surpassing Willie Mays HR mark..Class act..
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5/3/2015  3:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2015  4:04 PM
By the way, how does anyone give an athlete a 10 year contract to maintain elite physical relevance over that period of time..Its almost impossible..And often it's their 2nd or 3rd contract in the majors..Injuries happen that changes the way you play..Its almost guaranteed..Whose idea was this??
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5/3/2015  4:22 PM
I think that the Yankees are pretty classless and hypocritical. They were not complaining about A-Rod juicing when he was making them so much of their money. Now all of a sudden they get to be the moral authority AFTER his game has fallen off?
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5/3/2015  4:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2015  4:32 PM
Huge Yankees fan, but that's some sketchy back peddling on their part. You gave ARod that contact, honor your end of it, simple as that.
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5/3/2015  7:23 PM
i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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5/3/2015  9:37 PM
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

I feel the same way

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/3/2015  9:44 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:Huge Yankees fan, but that's some sketchy back peddling on their part. You gave ARod that contact, honor your end of it, simple as that.

Don't believe honor and Arod should be in the same sentence. Not after the many lies and his repeated attempts to silence and ruin the careers of people who exposed him. Im no fan of the Steinbrenners but they probably didnt expect Arod to go back to juicing, if he ever stopped. Manny Ramirez is the only superstar I can think of who was a repeat offender. He cheated to get to that milestone, he is lucky to be earning his ridiculous paycheck. And Ive been a fan since I was a kid.

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5/3/2015  9:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/3/2015  9:54 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

I feel the same way


The singling out of A-Rod actually made it a lot easier for me to root for him. He's handled everything very well this year. I don't know if he's actually a more modest person but he's coming across that way. Don't forget, he's never even had a positive steroid test.
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5/3/2015  10:02 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

I feel the same way


The singling out of A-Rod actually made it a lot easier for me to root for him. He's handled everything very well this year. I don't know if he's actually a more modest person but he's coming across that way. Don't forget, he's never even had a positive steroid test.

steroids is one issue ... (are you actually saying that you think that there is even a 1% chance that he was not juicing?)

the main issue for me was how badly he performed and how much we paid him to suck.

Texeira gets a free ride but if I was a betting man, I say that he juiced in texas to get the big contract and has GROSSLy under performed.

CC was paid a ton as well and was not clutch at all.

I miss the gritty home grown yankees and the gritty cheap signings like Scott Brosius.

I can't watch baseball at all anymore ... it sickens me. And, I use to go to 20-30 games a year.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/3/2015  10:09 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

I feel the same way


The singling out of A-Rod actually made it a lot easier for me to root for him. He's handled everything very well this year. I don't know if he's actually a more modest person but he's coming across that way. Don't forget, he's never even had a positive steroid test.

to me he still comes across as insincere. is it healing or coaching?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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5/3/2015  10:37 PM
Same. Trying to watch the Post 2009 Yankees when they still had clutch, high character, prototypical Yankees like Matsui & Damon has been very difficult. What a frickin bore
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5/4/2015  12:18 AM
Arod doesnt deserve the bonus. If you cheat on a test and do well and then it later becomes known that you cheated the teacher is not going to still give you a gold star...
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5/4/2015  12:20 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Same. Trying to watch the Post 2009 Yankees when they still had clutch, high character, prototypical Yankees like Matsui & Damon has been very difficult. What a frickin bore

How is Damon a prototypical Yankee, he spent his best years with their biggest rival?

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5/4/2015  6:39 AM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

I feel the same way


The singling out of A-Rod actually made it a lot easier for me to root for him. He's handled everything very well this year. I don't know if he's actually a more modest person but he's coming across that way. Don't forget, he's never even had a positive steroid test.

steroids is one issue ... (are you actually saying that you think that there is even a 1% chance that he was not juicing?)

the main issue for me was how badly he performed and how much we paid him to suck.

Texeira gets a free ride but if I was a betting man, I say that he juiced in texas to get the big contract and has GROSSLy under performed.

CC was paid a ton as well and was not clutch at all.

I miss the gritty home grown yankees and the gritty cheap signings like Scott Brosius.

I can't watch baseball at all anymore ... it sickens me. And, I use to go to 20-30 games a year.


Those are all issues at the level of MLB, though. A-Rod is just the scapegoat. At times, A-Rod has underperformed badly but he also was a key player for the 2009 ring and is playing at a higher level right now than I can remember a vet with 20 years of experience in a long time playing at.
1%? I have no idea what the percentage is but I think he should have been treated less harshly than guys who actually did have positive steroid tests.
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5/4/2015  6:41 AM
Dagger wrote:Arod doesnt deserve the bonus. If you cheat on a test and do well and then it later becomes known that you cheated the teacher is not going to still give you a gold star...

Is it cheating if everyone does it and the teacher practically says you can?
Are you implying that the Yankees do deserve that $6 mil? The money either goes to them or A-Rod. It's not like there's a third option where it goes to cancer research charities.
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5/4/2015  7:02 AM
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

Yanks resign Arod in 2007. Go to world series in 2009. You mean you "haven't really watched more than a few innings" in the early years of that contract"?

Are you reacting to the news that came out after and lead to his suspension? Half the world is repulsed by him.

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5/4/2015  7:43 AM
Nalod wrote:
dk7th wrote:i lost a lot of interest in the yankees when they gave a-rod that deal. haven't really watched more than a few innings now and then. that's how much that deal alienated me. a-rod is a disturbed human being that just sullies the yankees reputation historically.

one question: how has the yankees pitching been since they paid a-rod that contract??? yeah that's a rhetorical question.

Yanks resign Arod in 2007. Go to world series in 2009. You mean you "haven't really watched more than a few innings" in the early years of that contract"?

Are you reacting to the news that came out after and lead to his suspension? Half the world is repulsed by him.

can't remember. too long ago. i recall torre moving him down to 7th in the playoffs because he sucked so bad in the postseason. heard it discussed on wfan while driving route 3 near the meadowlands in a traffic jam. maybe that was during one of those 3 seasons 2007 08 09. then the complete collapse to the sox. perhaps that move by torre was the same season, maybe not.

the guy doesn't hit in the clutch in the playoffs, he comes a cross as a jayvee season superstar. you don't award jayvee superstar position players that kind of contract when baseball is all about pitching. remember the cardinals/brewers world series?

the guy is mentally weak, and he used steroids. i recall he lobbied for a new contract on national tv, he pulled a bush-league move trying to slap the ball out of the glove of a first baseman in the playoffs, and i am sure there are other super-duper moments that i'd rather not dredge up, although striking out and not even putting the ball in play is an overarching impression of his work....

all i know is that the yankees have not been quite "right" with rodrigues, i don't know how else to explain it.

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5/4/2015  7:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2015  7:49 AM
They are playing well right now but I don't see it sustaining with the tanaka being out and CC sing absolute Garbage at $25mil+ per and there position players are old and decrepit.

And I'm still not over losing our best player player and home grown Robinson Cano

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5/4/2015  7:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2015  7:47 AM
Dagger wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Same. Trying to watch the Post 2009 Yankees when they still had clutch, high character, prototypical Yankees like Matsui & Damon has been very difficult. What a frickin bore

How is Damon a prototypical Yankee, he spent his best years with their biggest rival?

Gamer. Clutch when it matters like in the Post Season. Same can be said for Matsui.

Paul O'neil was a Red says Misterearl.

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