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BRIGGS
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4/29/2015  8:50 PM
Thats pretty much it in a nutshell

Thats your free agency


3 years 49.5mm for Lopez with a team option for 4 (16.5)

4 years 50mm for Carroll (12.5mm)

2 years 5 mm for Derrick Williams(2.5mm)

Shveyd MLE
Resign Cole

Waive Calderon for the extra 3.6mm

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4/29/2015  9:19 PM
That Could happen. I actually don't know if Phil wants to take a chance on Brook's feet holding up but he might. I've been stuck on the idea of him settling on Monroe if he manages to draft Towns. If he lands OK4 maybe then he takes a chance on Lopez, since Lopez can be somewhat like Pau and score away from the basket as well as in the post. In either case I think Phil is praying for a #1 or #2 pick. Carroll is a safe pick, tho I can also see him going after Danny Green.
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4/29/2015  9:28 PM
if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2015  9:46 PM
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

If you knew he wouldn't re-injure his foot I think it would be a grat signing. If there is one team that shouldn't take a risk on a guy whose last surgery was to save his career it is the Knicks. If they got Bropez I would root hard for him though.
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4/29/2015  9:54 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

If you knew he wouldn't re-injure his foot I think it would be a grat signing. If there is one team that shouldn't take a risk on a guy whose last surgery was to save his career it is the Knicks. If they got Bropez I would root hard for him though.

he is likable but he is injury prone, we know that. And, he is a TERRIBLE defender.

Good offensive player but thats not nearly enough to warrant him such a crazy contract.

and one more thing ... check out his USG -> AST rate. Its worse than Amare ... Did not know that was even possible.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2015  10:06 PM
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

agreed. i will officially stop bleeding blue and orange.

did anyone see how the hawks ABUSED him on the pick and roll? Their game plan was "find lopez and attack him since he sucks on defense"

besides articles are stating he wants to resign with bk

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/29/2015  10:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2015  10:13 PM
Brooks Lopez 16 mil??..U got to be kidding..

Lopez stat line tonight.. 15 pts on 4-13 shooting..3 rebounds..
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4/29/2015  10:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2015  10:27 PM
holfresh wrote:Brooks Lopez 16 mil??..U got to be kidding..

Lopez stat line tonight.. 15 pts on 4-13 shooting..3 rebounds..

Yeah Lopez is worth 7mm --hes a max player?!?
Hes a 20-7-2 center 50%+ hes worth the cash. I do think they rode him into the ground the last 30 games but he is why they even made the playoffs. With Lopez you could draft any of Towns Okafor or trade down for Stein.

The other alternative is sign Anjica for what will likely cost 25-28mm 4 years and find one more player/asset.

I think if you use Lopez the right way with Carmelo and Carroll--that could be a big three. Anjica might be a cheaper alternative but I dont think he can dominate a game like Lopez can. Also I think Lopez can get better with better players.

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4/29/2015  10:55 PM
We have to see how the draft shakes out but we have to think defense on the cheap with guys like Amini and Ed Davis..I think Phil's preference would be to spend money on another wing player with Melo who can shoot the three..Butler would be ideal but not realistic..No way we bring in a center who is a plodder..I'm thinking a stud SG or PF, Butler,Aldridge or Love..Or even Wes Mathews..
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4/29/2015  10:58 PM
is lopez a BAD player? no. its just that he's asking for THE MAX salary. he can get you (an empty) 20-7-2. but dude is known for getting hurt. i dont like giving long term investments to big men with leg problems. I learned my lesson from amare. acquiring lopez would be a typical dolan move of going after a name with big numbers and ignoring his recent injury history

Ajinca - is a young defensive big man with underrated offensive skills. Id pay him 5-6 mill as a back up to towns/okafor

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/29/2015  11:33 PM
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

Seriously. I feel like a broken record saying this but can the Knicks PLEASE sign F/C's who can defend? BroPez is atrocious on D and is a horrible rebounder to boot. Throw in the two surgically repaired feet and giving him anything more than a 1 year deal is insanity. No way. If this happened I might cry.
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4/30/2015  12:35 AM
anyone who thinks brook lopez is worth the max has something else coming to them. yeah, let's just totally disregard the fact the guy has had foot surgery after surgery and doesn't play any sort of defense at all. no thanks to brook lopez. a big yes to demmare carrol though - love the way he plays and think he'd make an excellent guy in the triangle offensively and especially as a defensive player.
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4/30/2015  8:11 AM
I just threw up in my mouth. Lopezs no. Carroll yes
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4/30/2015  8:28 AM
H1AND1 wrote:
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

Seriously. I feel like a broken record saying this but can the Knicks PLEASE sign F/C's who can defend? BroPez is atrocious on D and is a horrible rebounder to boot. Throw in the two surgically repaired feet and giving him anything more than a 1 year deal is insanity. No way. If this happened I might cry.

Co-sign. I'll buy the tissues.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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4/30/2015  9:41 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Thats pretty much it in a nutshell

Thats your free agency


3 years 49.5mm for Lopez with a team option for 4 (16.5)

4 years 50mm for Carroll (12.5mm)

2 years 5 mm for Derrick Williams(2.5mm)

Shveyd MLE
Resign Cole

Waive Calderon for the extra 3.6mm

Thank god you're just someone that makes countless free agency and draft threads and not our GM.
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4/30/2015  9:49 AM
I think everyone needs to be prepared for G.Monroe being our big free agent signing cause he will be our big signing. I'm a Carroll fan and like him better than D.Green for the 2 spot but no thank you on B.Lopez but I will take his brother at half the price of Brook.
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4/30/2015  10:20 AM
Bropez? After we effed up signing Amare to max? BRIGGS, you're slippin man.

No way. Let's not do deals just to do them. Bropez plays no D, is inconsistent (although sometimes brilliant scorer), doesn't rebound all that great, and is a noted injury risk. PASS.
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4/30/2015  10:46 AM
I will never get tired of signing injury prone players who play no defense to max contracts
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4/30/2015  10:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/30/2015  10:46 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:if we give bropez 3 x 49 I will become a net fan

If you knew he wouldn't re-injure his foot I think it would be a grat signing. If there is one team that shouldn't take a risk on a guy whose last surgery was to save his career it is the Knicks. If they got Bropez I would root hard for him though.

It's bad enough players with healthy track records come to the knicks and become injury prone, we have never had any luck acquiring players who are pretty much injury prone and all of a sudden become iron men. so i would pass on Brooks with the quickness

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4/30/2015  12:25 PM
I'd pencil Carroll along with Danny Green and possibly Wes Matthews. I can't make a decision on Brook until I know where we are picking in the draft.
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