Fresh off a third Chinese Basketball Association title, Stephon Marbury weighed in on the Knicks’ potential draft pick, fellow CBA point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, calling the mystery prospect a player who is “going to be really good.’’

In a phone interview from Beijing, the ex-Knicks point guard from Coney Island branded Phil Jackson “a visionary’’ and claims to “love the triangle.’’

The 6-foot-5 Mudiay has the tools to be an All-Star, Marbury believes. The Dallas product turned down a scholarship from Larry Brown and SMU to play one season in China to prepare for the NBA draft. Mudiay is projected as a top-four pick while the Knicks are assured a pick within the top five.

Marbury, who had a postage stamp issued in his honor Saturday, got the better of Mudiay in their head-to-head meeting in the CBA semifinals last month. Mudiay, who turned 19 in March, played for Guangdong, but when he faced Marbury, he was just returning from a long absence due to an ankle injury.

“He’s a kid who is going to be really good, has a big upside,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got real potential, started at 18. He can play at a high level. It’s about the people around [him] and who he surrounds himself with is important to what goes on in his career.’’

Marbury, 38, who has won three CBA titles in four years to earn his own statue in front of Beijing’s arena, offered his own scouting report.

“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

Does he recommend other high-schoolers skip college for one year of Chinese ball?

“It’s not for everybody,’’ Marbury said. “Only for elite guys who can step up and play at this level.’’

No longer is Marbury part of the worst-ever Knicks club thanks to Jackson’s 2014-15 Knicks, who set the record at 17-65. For all the hype when Marbury arrived in 2003, he played on two 23-59 clubs — one coached by Brown, the other by Isiah Thomas.

Marbury, who still has a house in Purchase, believes the Knicks are in surer hands in Jackson than Thomas, with whom he eventually feuded.

“I think Phil Jackson is the right choice and perfect person to do whatever in basketball from his philosophy and how he wins,’’ Marbury said. “He’s capable of making anything work when it comes to basketball. He doesn’t just see things in the now. He’s a visionary and in time, he’ll figure it out.’’

Marbury faced Jackson’s Lakers teams and admitted the “triangle is hard to guard.”

“I love the triangle,’’ Mabury said. “You don’t have to dribble, you make moves and cut.’’

Marbury claimed as a Net, he “begged’’ Byron Scott to install Eddie Jordan’s system — a mix of triangle/Princeton offense.

The change was made but only after he was traded to Phoenix.

All these years later, Marbury believes he’s performing better than when he was in his NBA prime. Last season, Marbury played shooting guard, but his team’s other point guard left Beijing for more money. That forced him into a strictly point-guard role. In addition, a rule change forbid two Americans — his mate his ex-Knick Randolph Morris — to share the court in the fourth quarter. Hence, his season was dedicated to getting others going.

“This is the best I’ve ever played basketball,’’ said Marbury, the finals MVP. “I’m not athletically equipped like how I was before, but my game is so much more polished. I understand the game better. I see the game completely different.”

Marbury is coming home in late April, and plans to attend playoff games with his 10-year-old son. Then it’s back to China, where he is shooting two movies on his life. He thinks he has a few years left.
“My body feels great, I’ll play until my body won’t let me,’’ he said.

I wonder what would have happened if D'Antoni and Walsh sat down with him and really tried to get through to him?

Maybe he needed to fall down and have a fresh start.

Regardless, happy for him.

fishmike wrote:
“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

I call shenanigans, fish!

DrAlphaeus wrote:

fishmike wrote:
“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

I call shenanigans, fish!

I agree with your guy's view on Marbs for the most part. I like him a lot. What soiled it for me was when he got beat on defense and started barking at Nazr for not helping, then froze him out rest of the game. At that point I was like this guy is toxic, but in hindsight (always much clearer isnt it) I simply think the environment was toxic and it ruined what sensibility he had left. Most likely his pairing with Isiah was the root but who knows. Regardless he's doing really good things for himself, for the sport and even for the county. They LOVE him over there and he's totally embraced their love, their culture and I think its great. At this point my view on Marbs is this is a good guy and he simply needed the right environment to shine. What started as a business venture to sell those cheap shoes turned into something pretty cool and pretty special. He's broken cultural divides, and Im also happy and glad for him.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I still have a soft spot for Marbs. He got kind of a raw deal here.

I wonder what would have happened if D'Antoni and Walsh sat down with him and really tried to get through to him?

Maybe he needed to fall down and have a fresh start.

Regardless, happy for him.

+1

Sure didn't think at the time those pick and rolls with Doleac and Crazy Eyes would be the high water mark of his career here!

You see him in pictures now and he looks much more at peace. It's a pretty incredible turn of fortune.

Marbury is my dude....I couldn't be happier for him. He did the right thing to talk up Mudiay's game, but he also said that the kid can't shoot the ball. I don't care how athletically gifted he might be, he is NOT better then Russell.

Out of all the thing Mudiay can do, Russ does them all 2 times better. Better court vision, better ball handling, better shooter, Better decision maker, etc

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

fishmike wrote:
“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

I call shenanigans, fish!

lol... ok ok I might have slipped that little nugget in but the rest is legit.

I agree with your guy's view on Marbs for the most part. I like him a lot. What soiled it for me was when he got beat on defense and started barking at Nazr for not helping, then froze him out rest of the game. At that point I was like this guy is toxic, but in hindsight (always much clearer isnt it) I simply think the environment was toxic and it ruined what sensibility he had left. Most likely his pairing with Isiah was the root but who knows. Regardless he's doing really good things for himself, for the sport and even for the county. They LOVE him over there and he's totally embraced their love, their culture and I think its great. At this point my view on Marbs is this is a good guy and he simply needed the right environment to shine. What started as a business venture to sell those cheap shoes turned into something pretty cool and pretty special. He's broken cultural divides, and Im also happy and glad for him.

agreed.

yeah, i think the Garden under Dolan has enabled guys like Melo and Marbs and they're far worse off for it. both Melo and Marbs are basically good dudes who are extremely talented players who could win with the right team and right outlook. The Garden poisons the well - treats these guys like they are greek gods who can do no wrong and can never be told no and I think it messes them up. too many sycophants in MSG, starting, as always, at the top with Dolan.

Playing in NY is not for everybody..walsh was absolutely right

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

fishmike wrote:
“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

I call shenanigans, fish!

lol... ok ok I might have slipped that little nugget in but the rest is legit.

I agree with your guy's view on Marbs for the most part. I like him a lot. What soiled it for me was when he got beat on defense and started barking at Nazr for not helping, then froze him out rest of the game. At that point I was like this guy is toxic, but in hindsight (always much clearer isnt it) I simply think the environment was toxic and it ruined what sensibility he had left. Most likely his pairing with Isiah was the root but who knows. Regardless he's doing really good things for himself, for the sport and even for the county. They LOVE him over there and he's totally embraced their love, their culture and I think its great. At this point my view on Marbs is this is a good guy and he simply needed the right environment to shine. What started as a business venture to sell those cheap shoes turned into something pretty cool and pretty special. He's broken cultural divides, and Im also happy and glad for him.

agreed.

yeah, i think the Garden under Dolan has enabled guys like Melo and Marbs and they're far worse off for it. both Melo and Marbs are basically good dudes who are extremely talented players who could win with the right team and right outlook. The Garden poisons the well - treats these guys like they are greek gods who can do no wrong and can never be told no and I think it messes them up. too many sycophants in MSG, starting, as always, at the top with Dolan.

Just curious, what is the comparison between Marbs and Melo? Melo sets scoring records, dives into chairs, goes to the second round of the playoffs on a 54-win team and speaks his mind. Marbs eats vaseline, makes deranged videos about IT's management prowess, and had a truck.

How is Melo messed up and far worse off? I'm truly just asking.

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

fishmike wrote:
“He’s got his own style — fast,’’ Marbury said. “He’s got a little bit of everybody’s game. What l like about him is he can jump and he’s big, too, a big guard, more of a tweener. He can’t really shoot that well right now, but he’s got point-guard skills, sees the floor really well. He’s definitely an NBA player. The question that teams want to know is if he’ll be impactful for the organization before they invest the top pick. I gave him advice — stay on the right path, and buy tons of vaseline’’

I call shenanigans, fish!

lol... ok ok I might have slipped that little nugget in but the rest is legit.

I agree with your guy's view on Marbs for the most part. I like him a lot. What soiled it for me was when he got beat on defense and started barking at Nazr for not helping, then froze him out rest of the game. At that point I was like this guy is toxic, but in hindsight (always much clearer isnt it) I simply think the environment was toxic and it ruined what sensibility he had left.

Okay fish, dropping in the stealth vaseline comment was funny, but this is over the top. Please stop. Marbs was toxic in Minnesota, in NJ, in Phoenix and even slightly in Boston. Granted, he's managed not to be toxic in China, but let's not make this guy into something he never was.

Thats not really true. He was fine in Minn. He was fine in Pho. He started fine in NY. NJ was certainly toxic and he was a part of that. His own actions in NY got him dumped... nobody to blame but him for that, and I dont think he could be rehabbed here. for whatever reason he's good now. Good for him

He left a possibly great team in Minnesota because he had to be "the man" over KG.
Anything you read about him in Phoenix mentios his bitterness.
I'll give you Boston, since he wasn't really there long enough to become toxic.

Being the Homer, I actually thought he would turn things around here. The original coming home.

Like I said, he's turned it around in China. A shame Iverson couldn't have done the same.

crzymdups wrote:I still have a soft spot for Marbs. He got kind of a raw deal here.

I wonder what would have happened if D'Antoni and Walsh sat down with him and really tried to get through to him?

Maybe he needed to fall down and have a fresh start.

Regardless, happy for him.

You think they didn't try?

jrodmc wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

jrodmc wrote:
Just curious, what is the comparison between Marbs and Melo? Melo sets scoring records, dives into chairs, goes to the second round of the playoffs on a 54-win team and speaks his mind. Marbs eats vaseline, makes deranged videos about IT's management prowess, and had a truck.

How is Melo messed up and far worse off? I'm truly just asking.

Melo has missed the playoffs two years in a row, partially because of moves he and CAA endorsed. Cutting ties with Lin, bringing in Bargnani so Melo could go back to Small Forward - the coach and GM who wanted Melo to play PF and orchestrated that 54 win team were both fired. The GM was specifically fired for opposing the Bargnani trade that CAA demanded for Melo's sake. They haven't made the playoffs since CAA made the Knicks acquire Bargnani, since Glen Grunwald resigned because of that.

Every single player from that 54 win team is gone except Melo. That 54 win team was a looooong time ago. It's destruction is pretty much exactly what I was talking about re: the Garden enabling Melo and making life worse for him while trying to appease him and tell him he can do no wrong.

We missed the playoffs in the last week of the season last year, and this season was a CAA-sponsored tank job I suppose. CAA ensured Jose Calderon would be hurt and a flop this season, and ensured Cleanthony's ankles would continue to be problem. CAA is now running Phil Jackson?

Most of the key players from the 54 win team were older than Bill Russell; Melo and CAA I guess are responsible for the aging process. FluTyson and JR made themselves expendable the very next season. Who are you left touting then? Ray HOF PG Felton and Iman Wait for It Shumpert? Bargs was brought in specifically to offset the great Mrs. Hibbert's display in the second round and was not really a 4 anyway. He was a CAA client in his own right, and barely ever saw a rebound he liked. Where did Bargs excel? At the 5, in place of FluTyson, defending people like Hibbert and DHow while chucking up an inordinate amount of threes.

Is Melo at fault because CAA forced Chris Smith on the Knicks too?

Please just tell me how any of this compares to Marbs tenure here.

I look around the league and I see 6 players from that 54 win season in the playoffs right now. Tyson Chandler and JR Smith are starting. Shumpert, Felton, Amar'e, Prigioni all have roles off the bench.

If Shump and JR (not to mention Mozgov) get rings this year I guess it's just more bad luck for the Knicks, huh.

and re: Chris Smith and the Knicks - you are making my point for me. I didn't say it was Melo's fault. I said it was the Garden's fault for enabling what are otherwise good guys. JR Smith absolutely falls into that category here. Signing Chris Smith was a total joke. And not JR's fault, either. It's the Knicks fault. Where do you see me blaming Melo. I'm blaming the Knicks management.

I absolutely think an NBA team can build a contender around the Carmelo Anthony. I absolutely doubt the Knicks are capable of it. They are the toxic ingredient in these relationships. And to be 100% clear - I am not blaming Phil, either. I am blaming Dolan and his cadre of yes men and enablers. Dolan Dolan Dolan. DOLAN. That is who is at fault and the Knicks will have to be very lucky indeed to get good with him lurking in the shadows.

crzymdups wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

jrodmc wrote:
Just curious, what is the comparison between Marbs and Melo? Melo sets scoring records, dives into chairs, goes to the second round of the playoffs on a 54-win team and speaks his mind. Marbs eats vaseline, makes deranged videos about IT's management prowess, and had a truck.

How is Melo messed up and far worse off? I'm truly just asking.

Melo has missed the playoffs two years in a row, partially because of moves he and CAA endorsed. Cutting ties with Lin, bringing in Bargnani so Melo could go back to Small Forward - the coach and GM who wanted Melo to play PF and orchestrated that 54 win team were both fired. The GM was specifically fired for opposing the Bargnani trade that CAA demanded for Melo's sake. They haven't made the playoffs since CAA made the Knicks acquire Bargnani, since Glen Grunwald resigned because of that.

Every single player from that 54 win team is gone except Melo. That 54 win team was a looooong time ago. It's destruction is pretty much exactly what I was talking about re: the Garden enabling Melo and making life worse for him while trying to appease him and tell him he can do no wrong.

We missed the playoffs in the last week of the season last year, and this season was a CAA-sponsored tank job I suppose. CAA ensured Jose Calderon would be hurt and a flop this season, and ensured Cleanthony's ankles would continue to be problem. CAA is now running Phil Jackson?

Most of the key players from the 54 win team were older than Bill Russell; Melo and CAA I guess are responsible for the aging process. FluTyson and JR made themselves expendable the very next season. Who are you left touting then? Ray HOF PG Felton and Iman Wait for It Shumpert? Bargs was brought in specifically to offset the great Mrs. Hibbert's display in the second round and was not really a 4 anyway. He was a CAA client in his own right, and barely ever saw a rebound he liked. Where did Bargs excel? At the 5, in place of FluTyson, defending people like Hibbert and DHow while chucking up an inordinate amount of threes.

Is Melo at fault because CAA forced Chris Smith on the Knicks too?

Please just tell me how any of this compares to Marbs tenure here.

I look around the league and I see 6 players from that 54 win season in the playoffs right now. Tyson Chandler and JR Smith are starting. Shumpert, Felton, Amar'e, Prigioni all have roles off the bench.

If Shump and JR (not to mention Mozgov) get rings this year I guess it's just more bad luck for the Knicks, huh.

and re: Chris Smith and the Knicks - you are making my point for me. I didn't say it was Melo's fault. I said it was the Garden's fault for enabling what are otherwise good guys. JR Smith absolutely falls into that category here. Signing Chris Smith was a total joke. And not JR's fault, either. It's the Knicks fault. Where do you see me blaming Melo. I'm blaming the Knicks management.

I absolutely think an NBA team can build a contender around the Carmelo Anthony. I absolutely doubt the Knicks are capable of it. They are the toxic ingredient in these relationships. And to be 100% clear - I am not blaming Phil, either. I am blaming Dolan and his cadre of yes men and enablers. Dolan Dolan Dolan. DOLAN. That is who is at fault and the Knicks will have to be very lucky indeed to get good with him lurking in the shadows.

I loathe guitar Jimmy as much as anyone, but please explain the lucky Rangers, if it's all DOLAN DOLAN DOLAN. I hear he's involved somehow while lurking with hockey, too.

And you still haven't explained how Melo ended up "far worse off" just like Marbles. You just keep pointing in different directions: Melo & CAA --> CAA --> Knicks --> Dolan