gunsnewing wrote:Cousins like Monroe is durable. This wouldn't be like trading for Mcdyess or signing Amare

except Cousins has a horrible disposition. Talented malcontents only transform after eating Vaseline and moving to China.

Let me be the first to predict Cousins will win a championship...in China.

gunsnewing wrote:

y2zipper wrote:Here's the thing with this pick: it's not likely going to help the Knicks immediately. If they get a superstar, we won't know that until 3-4 years down the road when Melo's tenure is basically over.

I can't support the straight-up trade of the pick for cousins because of the 2-for-1 scenario that everyone has mentioned, but if Sac was going to take back Calderon and Hardaway Junior with it, then I'd make the move because I'd have 2 star-level players on the books and a maximum salary slot for another.

Hmmm that is a very plausible scenario for both teams. Great Job!

Still not sure id do it but certainly entertaining the idea if it rids us of those contracts

My take on the NBA is that the draft is a bit overrated, especially given long it takes for stars to develop and how few and far between they come now. I'm not trading first-round picks for Goran Dragic level-players, but a player at the level of Cousins without strapping the cap is something I'd pay attention to. By moving the other guys with the pick, I'm essentially betting that Cousins is going to be a better player than anybody in this draft over the next 5 years. With Cousins at 24, I make that bet and now have 2 all-star level players in the NBA for 4 years. The right way to build a team is gather a group of all-star level talent that I think can compete, mortgage assets to fill in the holes and try to make a run. If I do that deal, I've got Melo and Cousins in the starting lineup already and then I have a max salary slot to get that third guy to play with the other 2 all-stars plus a cap jump to fill in the holes after a season.

The scenario I described is essentially trading the future value of the whatever the pick is for a pretty good chance to be competitive for the next 4 years.

Straight up, it doesn't do enough though.

holfresh wrote:Who would want 24 pts 13 reb and 2 blks per game from a 24 yr old center that can shoot threes....

so kloves numbers don't matter but cousins is a real winner?

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Who would want 24 pts 13 reb and 2 blks per game from a 24 yr old center that can shoot threes....

so kloves numbers don't matter but cousins is a real winner?

He is a lot better defender than KLove so I'll run with that...By the way, I was a KLove fan and wanted him here until this year..He has had zero impact on Cleveland..The team around Cousins wasn't as good as KLove's teams..KG teams used to suck too until he got pieces around him..

how do you know that he had zero impact in cleveland? He still had a good year though not AS good.

Klove had good players around him?

smackeddog wrote:No because we need multiple players. Keep the pick and you can add a talent via the draft AND then use a max on a free agent, where as if you trade for boogie, you've already blown your max. I like him as a player though. I suspect he goes to Boston- they are loaded with stuff to trade.

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:No because we need multiple players. Keep the pick and you can add a talent via the draft AND then use a max on a free agent, where as if you trade for boogie, you've already blown your max. I like him as a player though. I suspect he goes to Boston- they are loaded with stuff to trade.

This. Also, I like following his relationship with Karl in Sacramento.

Cousins makes 14.7 mil next year before the cap explodes..Calderon makes 7...Realistically SAC will never do it..