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4/15/2015  3:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/15/2015  3:27 AM
Karl is old school, which probably means that he is a homer. I wouldn't be surprised to see him give up DeMarcus Cousins in return for several of "his guys" from the Nuggets (i.e. Ty Lawson, Danilo Gallinari and Kenneth Faried), especially now that he's gone public about his affection from them and the style they played. If that is the case, I think I'd be willing to pony up our pick to Denver for DeMarcus to complete a three team trade. I'd even take on some of the Kings' bad contracts to make it all work. I'm not the biggest fan of DeMarcus Cousins BUT I think he offers the best value we could yield from that pick. While he might not be the best fit with Melo, he's passing skills, post game and derrière makes him a great fit for the triangle. If not, maybe Anthony Davis might demand a trade down the road and maybe we could flip Cousins and filler for him. Thoughts?
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4/15/2015  3:51 AM
this guy hasn't had a winning season since he's been in the league, and i dont see him complemented melo.
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4/15/2015  3:54 AM
From where it said Karl misses Denver or melo?
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4/15/2015  4:56 AM
I'd rather keep the draft pick and sign Monroe(FAs). That is the more prudent way to use the cap. Why waste the chance at having multiple players on your cap, especially when one of those players could become a bargain locked into a rookie deal? It will be very hard to find a FA that will have the same level of upside for around $4m+, the cap money the knicks would gain by not keeping their pick.

Anyway, Monroe is basically a slightly worse Version of Cousins. cousins and Monroe are only months apart and would make similar money. They both do their best work around the basket and are good passers, rebounders, plus each player possess quick hands that causes steals. Monroe is the better dreb and shot blocker. He also gets to the line at an extremely high level and shoots it at a more than respectable rate for a big over his career(very good this yr). He is also the better defender which is why he is the better player.

Even though the Knick would be getting the lesser player at the same price that doesn't make it a bad move because of the draft pick and the potential for Monroe to be a better player in an offense that caters to his strength. Greg needs low post touches and the opportunity to be a play maker from the high post the tri.gives him that. It has made Cole Aldrich look like a goofy Vlade at times so what could it do for Monroe?

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4/16/2015  10:21 PM
stopstandthere wrote:From where it said Karl misses Denver or melo?

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Even after the game, it was evident Kings coach George Karl never will completely move on from his nine seasons as coach of the Denver Nuggets.

No closure came Sunday, when the Nuggets ran the Kings off the court 122-111 at Pepsi Center.

Both teams have long been out of playoff contention, so that factor couldn’t distract Karl from the emotions of losing his job after being named NBA Coach of the Year for the 2012-13 season.

Karl admits he still has fondness for Nuggets he coached such as Ty Lawson, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Kenneth Faried. When Karl reads the box scores, he sometimes looks at Denver’s first.

“It’s still an emotional moment in my life,” Karl said. “I can’t deny that I miss Denver. I miss the team; I miss the city. It’s a place I love.”

When the Kings hired him in February, Karl knew he’d return to Denver. But he didn’t plan to do so with a depleted roster.


The Kings’ top three scorers – DeMarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay and Darren Collison – have been shut down for the season. The Nuggets exploited the short-handed Kings, jumping to an early lead and blowing the game open after the Kings closed the gap in the second quarter.

Denver shot 54.9 percent and posted season highs of 32 assists and 68 points in the paint.

Karl said Sunday was “a hard day.”

“Having a struggling team and watching my old guys kick my butt pretty good was a challenge,” Karl said. “We’re so short-handed, at times 48 minutes is just too long of a game for us.”

The Kings realized the game’s significance for Karl. , Considering the Nuggets have missed the playoffs in the two seasons since his dismissal, Karl’s popularity remains strong in Denver. He received plenty of hugs from around the arena and a warm welcome when he was introduced.

“We all knew going in how important this game is for him,” Kings forward Omri Casspi said. “But we’re missing key pieces, and it’s hard to play for as long as we’ve played without them.”

Faried made it tough on his old coach with 30 points. He might have topped his career high of 34 had he played in the fourth quarter.

Faried admitted it was “awkward” seeing Karl coach another team.

“He was my first NBA head coach, and he taught me a lot,” Faried said. “We made it to the playoffs every time I was with him. It was bittersweet. I knew I had a job to do (Sunday), but it was also good to see my former coach.”

The loss was the Kings’ third straight and eighth in 10 games as their ninth consecutive losing season winds down. Karl, the team’s third coach this season, admits finding the bright side at this stage is tough, especially with the injuries.

“This team’s been through a lot of misery, and 48 minutes is a long time to stay strong, persevere and not let it get to you,” Karl said. “At times, I thought we let our shoulders drop, their heads drop. But no one’s going to feel sorry for us.”

Karl continues to praise the positives he sees, such as Casspi (22 points, seven rebounds and a career-high-tying seven assists) and Ben McLemore (20 points and a career-high seven assists).

“It’s just tough losing games,” McLemore said. “We’ve just got to continue to get better this last two games against the Lakers and just finish strong.”

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/kings-blog/article18367175.html#storylink=cpy

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4/16/2015  10:35 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I'd rather keep the draft pick and sign Monroe(FAs). That is the more prudent way to use the cap. Why waste the chance at having multiple players on your cap, especially when one of those players could become a bargain locked into a rookie deal? It will be very hard to find a FA that will have the same level of upside for around $4m+, the cap money the knicks would gain by not keeping their pick.

Anyway, Monroe is basically a slightly worse Version of Cousins. cousins and Monroe are only months apart and would make similar money. They both do their best work around the basket and are good passers, rebounders, plus each player possess quick hands that causes steals. Monroe is the better dreb and shot blocker. He also gets to the line at an extremely high level and shoots it at a more than respectable rate for a big over his career(very good this yr). He is also the better defender which is why he is the better player.

Even though the Knick would be getting the lesser player at the same price that doesn't make it a bad move because of the draft pick and the potential for Monroe to be a better player in an offense that caters to his strength. Greg needs low post touches and the opportunity to be a play maker from the high post the tri.gives him that. It has made Cole Aldrich look like a goofy Vlade at times so what could it do for Monroe?

I never really thought of that option but I do prefer it from a talent standpoint. I've always been a fan of Greg's game in spite of his deficiencies and I think he'd fit in exceedingly well in the triangle. But financially speaking, I don't see how having Monroe and our pick instead of Cousins is more advantageous. In all likelihood, Monroe will command max money, which I'm presuming is about $14 million per to start. If you combine that with the $4-$5 million per that a top 3 pick will command, our total bill would come up to about $20 million. According to Hoopshype, DeMarcus Cousins is only on the books for $14.7 million which is approximately $5 million less than your plan. And the beauty about Cousins' contract is that he's locked into a similar figure until the 2017-2018 season which will make him one of the best value players in the league once the salary cap explodes in 2016. And as much as I like Cousins, I'm more concerned with posturing. I suspect that Anthony Davis might become imminently available, which would make a chip like Cousins especially crucial. My ultimate goal would be to use Cousins a year or two from now to acquire Anthony in a sign and trade deal, to pair with Melo (and Monroe). I know it is quite a reach to fathom but the New Orleans situation has all the makings to produce a malcontent superstar and I think we should ready ourselves for that possibility.

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4/17/2015  2:19 AM
Phil Jackson & George Karl........just weird.
George Karl Misses Denver...And Why This Could Be Significant For Us....

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