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fishmike
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4/10/2015  1:17 PM
Seriously why go to the NCAA? I mean I know its in the states, so thats certainly a biggie, but I would expect to see more of this. Alot more of it

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4/10/2015  1:19 PM
That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
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4/10/2015  1:21 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?
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4/10/2015  1:28 PM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

From all reports, the CBA seems to be more competitive than the NCAA as whole. The only risk is that he may lose a bit in overall development. I'm certain playing a year under Larry Brown would've prepared him more for the NBA than playing in China. It hurts us as fans, because we don't get to see him. But every scouting department is aware of him and I'm sure they had their tentacles in China this year.
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4/10/2015  1:33 PM
The NBA & college basketball need to work together to come up with a better system. I'm confident Silver will. By the way I think I saw him getting out of his house & into a cab this morning in Hoboken.

I wonder if they can mimic Hockey and Baseball and let teams to draft players and allow the players to go to college if they wish. Let them go right to the NBA if they want to. Get China out of the picture.

They might need a true minor league system not the DLeague as presently constituted.
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4/10/2015  1:34 PM
There was extensive scouting in China. I actually don't think it was bad for him based on the reports i've read. Mudiay showed a lot for an 18 yr old in a pro league. He's got a lot of work to do as many young PG's do. Still he's a great prospect. Not a lot of legit 6-5 PG's out there.

Here's an excellent article on Mudiay.

http://hoopshype.com/columns/david-nurse/emmanuel-mudiay-made-in-china
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4/10/2015  1:34 PM
It is riskier from the NCAA as follows:

The CBA rules limit teams to two Western players - no more. The two "western" players tend to be the stars on the squad. So, when a player gets a small injury (like Mudiay did - a 10 day strain) they may replace them quickly (like Mudiay got replaved Wil Bynum). Thereafter, there is no more tape on Mudiay and he was not playing competitively until the playoffs.

So, there are limited spaces for western players, you are competing with former NBA players and other rising stars for those limited spots and any injury is highly likely to result in being waived.

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4/10/2015  2:26 PM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.

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SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.


The exposure only impacts our thoughts on Mudiay. Pro scouts are well are of him though. And who knows? He may move up to the top 2 by the time teams finish their workouts.
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4/10/2015  3:43 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.

A guy ranked 25 would not get a roster spot in China.

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4/10/2015  4:14 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.

A guy ranked 25 would not get a roster spot in China.


Meaning all the players on Chinese teams would be mid or earlier 1st round nba picks? I don't know much about that league but I'm skeptical of what you're saying
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4/10/2015  4:35 PM
exactly. im a fan of the NCAA but basically id advise a kid to go over seas, skip all the criticism you wouldve received here....learn how to be a professional, and play have a yr...and o yeah make a million bucks
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4/10/2015  5:48 PM
You figure hockey,baseball, and tennis players turn pro at 17, sometimes earlier, why not basketball players? I think playing against other professionals in China is better competition than college bball. I read that Mudiay's team lost to Marbury's team in the China bball championship.
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4/11/2015  2:01 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.

A guy ranked 25 would not get a roster spot in China.


Meaning all the players on Chinese teams would be mid or earlier 1st round nba picks? I don't know much about that league but I'm skeptical of what you're saying

No -- thats absolutely not my point. Roster limitations in China are intended to keep westerners out to a degree. Rosters are only allowed to have 2 western players total per team. So, to play in China, with 20 teams, you need to be one of the top 40 players willing to play in China. Not just top 40 in this year's rookie class, but top 40 western player willing to play in China overall. So, a top player from USA high school? Yeah, there is a chance they get to play. A middling player? Much less likely.

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4/11/2015  7:33 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:That's crazy. It's a short-term gamble because it can cost you spots and money in the draft but a mil bucks in a year? I'd take that gamble.
how so? How is playing in China any riskier than the NCAA?

exposure. This kid is supposed to be legit, was supposed to be the best incoming Freshman... now I have no idea. He'll still get drafted high but if you were going to get drafted, say, 25th, I would doubt if that guy would get drafted at all.

A guy ranked 25 would not get a roster spot in China.


Meaning all the players on Chinese teams would be mid or earlier 1st round nba picks? I don't know much about that league but I'm skeptical of what you're saying

No -- thats absolutely not my point. Roster limitations in China are intended to keep westerners out to a degree. Rosters are only allowed to have 2 western players total per team. So, to play in China, with 20 teams, you need to be one of the top 40 players willing to play in China. Not just top 40 in this year's rookie class, but top 40 western player willing to play in China overall. So, a top player from USA high school? Yeah, there is a chance they get to play. A middling player? Much less likely.

I see. Thanks for the info. I didn't know any of that.
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