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fishmike
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4/10/2015  9:52 AM
from http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/jackson-and-mills-shed-light-on-offseason-strategy/

Knicks president Phil Jackson and GM Steve Mills addressed season ticket holders on their strategy for this upcoming offseason as the Knicks try to bounce back from their record-breaking terrible season. Along with their plans for the draft and free agency, Jackson also mentioned which players he hoped would be sticking around next season (Knicks, April 8).

Jackson and Mills both praised Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas and Langston Galloway for their character on and off the court.

“They brought a lot of joy to us just by watching how they play,” Jackson said. “Great energy, team players, they do a job out there and they all can play defense and they’re two-way players as we say. So, that kind of says in a nutshell about what’s going to happen with this team. That’s the direction we’re looking to go.”

The front office is looking to pull a draft pick and free agents who would fit with those characters already making an impact on the squad.

“On July 1st, we chase free agents that we know are likely to come to this organization and we do that in a way that compliments our draft choice and compliments the team and the way we want to play basketball,” Jackson said.

The full event, which took place at the Theatre at Madison Square Garden, aired on MSG Network Wednesday night.
Not a Lance fan but he knows the system and they love his practice ethic so fine. I like Lou and Langston coming back. Ledo will be in the summer league also no doubt competing for a roster spot. Who else comes back? I figure Shved also unless the use the cash elsewhere.

Regardless its nice to see them viewing the pick as a cornerstone piece. Between that and Dolan saying we are rebuilding Im feeling just fine about this process

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4/10/2015  10:00 AM
totally agree fish. i know alot of people are upset with the calderon/tyson trade, but im not. tyson had to go and, yeah, i think phil thought calderon had more left in the tank than what he's shown this year but i still don't deem the trade as a total disaster. we are rebuilding, which is a great sign and phil swung and missed on that trade but it's ok. ledo was a great pickup, amundson, galloway were great additions and trading prigs for draft picks was a good move. unlike most, im pretty confident in phil and where he's going with this. let's just hope we get the 1st pick and have our choice of everyone. towns, ok4, mudiay, whoever, im excited for them all.
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4/10/2015  10:13 AM
It depends on the trade. I don't want phil to have a close-minded approach.
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4/10/2015  10:19 AM
Trading a lottery pick in this years draft would be dumb. Now we all know the knicks have been one of the dumber organizations but i doubt phil will just trade a pick unless its for a guy like lebron or curry type player. I have always been big of drafting so its time we start doing it that way
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4/10/2015  10:20 AM
The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
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4/10/2015  10:24 AM
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft
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4/10/2015  10:27 AM
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crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

yeah, it's a good draft. a top 5 pick in this draft should equal a very good player.

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4/10/2015  10:33 AM
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

yeah, it's a good draft. a top 5 pick in this draft should equal a very good player.

ands its very possible you get the best player. Some of the wings looking to go 3-6 I think have franchise caliber upside. Mario, Russell and Mudiay all have strong traits that scream STAR
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4/10/2015  10:35 AM
I would consider a trade, if and ONLY IF the trade nets them 2 1st round picks, with one of them still being in the top 4. That means trading the 1 to Philly for their 3 and 18, OR trading the 1 to LA for their 4 and 25. Obviously, Philly would be more attractive to NY. I would consider swapping with Minnesota if they traded their 1st round pick next year too.

Otherwise, my choices are

1 Towns
2 Winslow
3 Okafor
4 Russell
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IMO this is a good draft. If you pick in the top 10 you should be able to get a good player. If you pick in the top 4 you should get an impact player. We only have 4 more games to do in order to lock in that top 4 and as crazy as it feels for me to root for losses this is the one time I am hoping for no more miracle wins.

Minnesota is breathing down our necks trying to tank harder. We actually have an easier schedule than they do which worries me a bit. The Knicks haven't stopped trying to win, whereas I feel the T'Wolves have stopped trying to win games.


T'Wolves 16-62                              Knicks 15-63
Fri, Apr 10	@Los Angeles    10:30 PM    Fri, Apr 10	vs Milwaukee     7:30 PM
Sat, Apr 11	@Golden State   10:30 PM    Sat, Apr 11	@ Orlando        7:00 PM
Mon, Apr 13	vs New Orleans   8:00 PM    Mon, Apr 13	@ Atlanta        7:30 PM	 
Wed, Apr 15	vs Oklahoma City 8:00 PM    Wed, Apr 15	vs Detroit       8:00 PM
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4/10/2015  10:53 AM
nixluva wrote:IMO this is a good draft. If you pick in the top 10 you should be able to get a good player. If you pick in the top 4 you should get an impact player. We only have 4 more games to do in order to lock in that top 4 and as crazy as it feels for me to root for losses this is the one time I am hoping for no more miracle wins.

Minnesota is breathing down our necks trying to tank harder. We actually have an easier schedule than they do which worries me a bit. The Knicks haven't stopped trying to win, whereas I feel the T'Wolves have stopped trying to win games.


T'Wolves 16-62                              Knicks 15-63
Fri, Apr 10	@Los Angeles    10:30 PM    Fri, Apr 10	vs Milwaukee     7:30 PM
Sat, Apr 11	@Golden State   10:30 PM    Sat, Apr 11	@ Orlando        7:00 PM
Mon, Apr 13	vs New Orleans   8:00 PM    Mon, Apr 13	@ Atlanta        7:30 PM	 
Wed, Apr 15	vs Oklahoma City 8:00 PM    Wed, Apr 15	vs Detroit       8:00 PM
as long as we are in bottom 2 which is likely we should get a top 3 pick
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4/10/2015  11:10 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:IMO this is a good draft. If you pick in the top 10 you should be able to get a good player. If you pick in the top 4 you should get an impact player. We only have 4 more games to do in order to lock in that top 4 and as crazy as it feels for me to root for losses this is the one time I am hoping for no more miracle wins.

Minnesota is breathing down our necks trying to tank harder. We actually have an easier schedule than they do which worries me a bit. The Knicks haven't stopped trying to win, whereas I feel the T'Wolves have stopped trying to win games.


T'Wolves 16-62                              Knicks 15-63
Fri, Apr 10	@Los Angeles    10:30 PM    Fri, Apr 10	vs Milwaukee     7:30 PM
Sat, Apr 11	@Golden State   10:30 PM    Sat, Apr 11	@ Orlando        7:00 PM
Mon, Apr 13	vs New Orleans   8:00 PM    Mon, Apr 13	@ Atlanta        7:30 PM	 
Wed, Apr 15	vs Oklahoma City 8:00 PM    Wed, Apr 15	vs Detroit       8:00 PM
as long as we are in bottom 2 which is likely we should get a top 3 pick

That would be a big fail. The Knicks have suffered all season not having the worst record would only exacerbate the suffering. I want the 4th pick guaranteed at least.
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4/10/2015  11:16 AM
Vmart wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:IMO this is a good draft. If you pick in the top 10 you should be able to get a good player. If you pick in the top 4 you should get an impact player. We only have 4 more games to do in order to lock in that top 4 and as crazy as it feels for me to root for losses this is the one time I am hoping for no more miracle wins.

Minnesota is breathing down our necks trying to tank harder. We actually have an easier schedule than they do which worries me a bit. The Knicks haven't stopped trying to win, whereas I feel the T'Wolves have stopped trying to win games.


T'Wolves 16-62                              Knicks 15-63
Fri, Apr 10	@Los Angeles    10:30 PM    Fri, Apr 10	vs Milwaukee     7:30 PM
Sat, Apr 11	@Golden State   10:30 PM    Sat, Apr 11	@ Orlando        7:00 PM
Mon, Apr 13	vs New Orleans   8:00 PM    Mon, Apr 13	@ Atlanta        7:30 PM	 
Wed, Apr 15	vs Oklahoma City 8:00 PM    Wed, Apr 15	vs Detroit       8:00 PM
as long as we are in bottom 2 which is likely we should get a top 3 pick

That would be a big fail. The Knicks have suffered all season not having the worst record would only exacerbate the suffering. I want the 4th pick guaranteed at least.

i understand but we should be prepared. The sad thing is as bad as the knicks are they are still trying to win which is stupid but thats the knicks for you lol. My point is second to last still gives you a great chance to remain in top 4
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4/10/2015  11:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2015  11:23 AM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

yeah, it's a good draft. a top 5 pick in this draft should equal a very good player.

ands its very possible you get the best player. Some of the wings looking to go 3-6 I think have franchise caliber upside. Mario, Russell and Mudiay all have strong traits that scream STAR

I've long thought Russell might be the best player in the draft. Kid screams Steph Curry 2.0 to me.

I have only seen Mario and Mudiay via grainy youtube mixes - they look solid... but it's hard to judge the competition.

Russell and Towns I have seen live (live on TV I mean) many times and they seem like they have the potential to be the real deal to me.

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4/10/2015  11:41 AM
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

yeah, it's a good draft. a top 5 pick in this draft should equal a very good player.

ands its very possible you get the best player. Some of the wings looking to go 3-6 I think have franchise caliber upside. Mario, Russell and Mudiay all have strong traits that scream STAR

I've long thought Russell might be the best player in the draft. Kid screams Steph Curry 2.0 to me.

I have only seen Mario and Mudiay via grainy youtube mixes - they look solid... but it's hard to judge the competition.

Russell and Towns I have seen live (live on TV I mean) many times and they seem like they have the potential to be the real deal to me.


Yeah, I think the top 3 might be a crapshoot in terms of who does best in the NBA. A lot depends on how much they want to reach the next level vs. be content with several mil dollars already. There's no way for us to know this in advance.
The same could apply to Mudiay but it's even harder to figure out how an international player's game will translate here.
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4/10/2015  12:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

yeah, it's a good draft. a top 5 pick in this draft should equal a very good player.

ands its very possible you get the best player. Some of the wings looking to go 3-6 I think have franchise caliber upside. Mario, Russell and Mudiay all have strong traits that scream STAR

I've long thought Russell might be the best player in the draft. Kid screams Steph Curry 2.0 to me.

I have only seen Mario and Mudiay via grainy youtube mixes - they look solid... but it's hard to judge the competition.

Russell and Towns I have seen live (live on TV I mean) many times and they seem like they have the potential to be the real deal to me.

yes... I like Mario alot also, but Ive seen the most of Russell and love love love his game. Intense kid. You know he grew up in Louisville, KY and was offered a full ride there? He went to OH to stand out more and is even more impressive considering his leadership and the fact that he was 18 all year (he turned 19 about 6 weeks ago).

People say he's unathletic, I bet he tests out very very high. He simply doesnt need much space. Im a bit biased towards lefty's also

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4/10/2015  12:22 PM
fishmike wrote:yes... I like Mario alot also, but Ive seen the most of Russell and love love love his game. Intense kid. You know he grew up in Louisville, KY and was offered a full ride there? He went to OH to stand out more and is even more impressive considering his leadership and the fact that he was 18 all year (he turned 19 about 6 weeks ago).

People say he's unathletic, I bet he tests out very very high. He simply doesnt need much space. Im a bit biased towards lefty's also

Yeah, I read that story on Russell. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good drive. Also, he can shoot lights out and he's a true playmaker. He's built for the way the league works now - only problem is that Phil doesn't necessarily want to play that way. I kind of hope they get cornered into drafting him. We'll see. ( I am also biased towards lefty's though)

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4/10/2015  12:45 PM
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:yes... I like Mario alot also, but Ive seen the most of Russell and love love love his game. Intense kid. You know he grew up in Louisville, KY and was offered a full ride there? He went to OH to stand out more and is even more impressive considering his leadership and the fact that he was 18 all year (he turned 19 about 6 weeks ago).

People say he's unathletic, I bet he tests out very very high. He simply doesnt need much space. Im a bit biased towards lefty's also

Yeah, I read that story on Russell. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good drive. Also, he can shoot lights out and he's a true playmaker. He's built for the way the league works now - only problem is that Phil doesn't necessarily want to play that way. I kind of hope they get cornered into drafting him. We'll see. ( I am also biased towards lefty's though)

yea this... but ala the Steph Curry draft I feel like a abused dog when it comes to this team. Your just cringing for the next blow to come down on you. So the thought of having the decision taken out of the Knicks hands has GREAT appeal.

This is torture because you know this offseason has such lucrative potential and you know the Knick's track record. I guess if it *ever* ends it has to start sometime. Sigh...

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4/10/2015  1:16 PM
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:yes... I like Mario alot also, but Ive seen the most of Russell and love love love his game. Intense kid. You know he grew up in Louisville, KY and was offered a full ride there? He went to OH to stand out more and is even more impressive considering his leadership and the fact that he was 18 all year (he turned 19 about 6 weeks ago).

People say he's unathletic, I bet he tests out very very high. He simply doesnt need much space. Im a bit biased towards lefty's also

Yeah, I read that story on Russell. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good drive. Also, he can shoot lights out and he's a true playmaker. He's built for the way the league works now - only problem is that Phil doesn't necessarily want to play that way. I kind of hope they get cornered into drafting him. We'll see. ( I am also biased towards lefty's though)

This...in the end, Russell may end up as the best player in this draft especially when you consider tha way tha game is played now with perimeter players dominating. He's a facilitator that can shoot lights out and has a high bbiq and is a natural leader. Heard a story about him scouting future opponents on his own and inviting teammates to study with him.

I think Russell and Ok4 are the most ready to have immediate impacts in the NBA.
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StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:The only way I'd feel okay about trading the pick is if they got screwed into getting pick 4 or, gulp, 5.
even if we dont end up dead last im pretty confident we will be in top 3 or 4 which is great for this draft

I think your just being optimistic which we all should be, but the reality is, we have no freaking clue how any of these draft picks will turn out.

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