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CTKnicksfan
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7/1/2004  8:45 AM
Which would you rather have for the LLE?
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7/1/2004  8:46 AM
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7/1/2004  8:54 AM
Doleac, it would give Sweets plenty of time to learn the post.
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7/1/2004  8:56 AM
I just think Baker and Dyess have far too many ? marks - Doleac is a solid role player and I like him more then the other 2. He has a lot of heart, enough talent to hit the 15 footer and can run the pick + roll with marbury.

Dyess could break down any second.

Baker - well what exactly did he show us in an NY uniform playing for cheap? Not a whole lot, and he didnt get that much PT either. So whats the point? Is he really all of a sudden going to start playing like he used to? I doubt it.
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7/1/2004  9:14 AM
I like Doleac too, but only if we can use the MLE or trade KT + contracts for someone with a post game. I like Sweets too, but I'm not sure he's ready to be the only post option just yet.

If we use the MLE on a guard like Crawford, and can't find a taker for KT that will bring us a F/C who can score down low, I'm not sure who else would be available for the LLE to fill that role. Any vet at $1.6M is going to have question marks.
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7/1/2004  9:16 AM
Posted by CTKnicksfan:

If we use the MLE on a guard like Crawford, and can't find a taker for KT that will bring us a F/C who can score down low, I'm not sure who else would be available for the LLE to fill that role. Any vet at $1.6M is going to have question marks.

My guess is that Isiah wants Sweetney to fill the low post role next year.
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7/1/2004  9:17 AM
...or at least he is going to give Sweetney and Nazr a chance to see how they do.
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7/1/2004  9:32 AM
I just don't want Dyess.

He was poppin mad junk when he got traded like he didn't have a chance to come back this season.

"He still has his apartment on the upper wes side" So what he's rich biotch.....He got homes and stuff all over the place probably. Especially in Houston where he spends his summers....like I care.

Doleac is the man right now for the Knicks if the Knicks are supposed to sign one of those guys. Doleac showed a desire to play defense and was confident in his role. His jumpshot was becoming automatic. He's basically KT but much bigger. Sign the dude for the low-level so he can be near his fiancee'.

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7/1/2004  9:47 AM
I feel like we just need to forget about Dyess. The whole thing was such a disaster. At least we were able to get Marbury because of his contract.

Doleac did a really solid job for us last year and would fit well if he came back. When it comes down to it, do you prefer him or Nazr?
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7/1/2004  9:55 AM
let's forget dyess and move on. This guys is finished, maybe not as a player but as an impact lowpost player.

it was nice to dream about a healthy dice in NY, but it never happened.

at the same time, doleac brings good attitude, some toughness at time (at least last season, it's an area in which he improved) and a deadly complement to marbury in the pick and roll.

Baker should not be retaineed. He will provide only further distractions. wish the best, but elsewhere.

sweet needs to play. nazr needs time to improve too. Doleac would be nice third guy to have.
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7/1/2004  9:58 AM
I say Mihm. He's better than Doleac--i know he's restricted--but he is one of the very few RFA than I believe we can get because of the numbers game in Boston. If we are not in the running for an MLE player--i would offer 4 years 13mm--about the same money harrington gets.
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7/1/2004  10:00 AM
they're trying to move ilgauskas. They'll match that kind of offer.
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7/1/2004  10:24 AM
hes on the Celtics
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7/1/2004  10:32 AM
ooups, sorry, thanks briggs.
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7/1/2004  10:39 AM
Is Mihm really that much better than Doleac? Doleac has a more consistent jumper IMO, and is about as good a rebounder. Doleac is also more mobile and gives a better effort on defense. He's not a lockdown guy by anymeans, but I was somewhat impressed by his post D vs. bigger centers last year.

The way I see it Mihm has more post potential, but he's only shown it rarely. I think he played harder last season, but I'm still not completely sold.
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7/1/2004  10:55 AM
If we could get Dyess back for LLE, I'd do it. Guy's got potential to change the outlook of the team.

Yeah, Doleac can stick a few shots and bang a bit, but he's basically a stiff. Defensive liability. Offensively, a specialist who's lousy at everything but shooting. I'm hoping we get enough talent up front that he'd only get run if we were hurt or in foul trouble. Dyess, I know it's a big "if", but if he keeps improving his health, could play his way into significant minutes.

Baker is through. Also, IMO, more of a health risk w/ his alcoholism than Dyess.
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7/1/2004  11:04 AM
Defensive liability? I didnt think so last year. He gave a good effort and was at least average. I thought Doleac played much better D than Nazr did when he came over.
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7/1/2004  11:18 AM
Doleac IS a better defender than Nazr
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7/1/2004  11:18 AM
Better D than Nazr ... that's damning with faint praise. Doleac gets about as much out of his limited athleticism as he can, but again, faint praise. Just not quick enough to play with athletic bigs, imo. He gets beat in the post too often, and, even worse, gets beat to rebounds because of his lack of quickness. At least he fights for post position tho, unlike Nazr.
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7/1/2004  11:29 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I say Mihm. He's better than Doleac--i know he's restricted--but he is one of the very few RFA than I believe we can get because of the numbers game in Boston. If we are not in the running for an MLE player--i would offer 4 years 13mm--about the same money harrington gets.

you want to commit to this guy for 4 years? wow - that's a long time for mihm. i think doleac fits our roster better as exhibited by his pick and roll game with marbury. mihm is ok but i think we're fine with nazr. 4 years for mihm, that's too tough to swallow, even if it is for $3 mil/year.
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