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DJMUSIC
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3/30/2015  10:35 AM
dj isn't even thrashing NBA cause Lakers like our loved knickerbockers are very bad.

Injuries

I see more than 1/2 NBA is hurt 60-90% of 82 game schedule

The good and bad players the stars

What hell going on here ?????

I don't feel whole league players plays hard 100% every night for NBA contract to merit bunch os injuries
Real IL, some temporary

The whole freaking league must be soft eh?

Here is my contrasting argument, guy star like Dwayne Wade
He seem to put out mostly all time, gets hurt it is likely real.

He got jacked up knees since Shaq left moons ago and Miami last NBA title,
He suits up a..busts 40points on bad knees

Now that is what I'm talking bout'!
I respect it, Dwade .. and DJ don't even like the man Wade but respect as hell his forte,
His work to get back on court.. for real injuries

Thought u get hurt when u playing hard .. these NBA guys you sneeze on them or they run into a scorers table
Them son of bit'ches out all week, sometimes 2 weeks.

Even bad players in NBA spend all season on IL then show up for 2 weeks of their salaries
Some dream job eh?

And yes I be crazy not to point out fantasy sports, NBA hoop I am in all of them
MLB, NFL , NBA and run a few legit fun leagues, but I don't make $money in them.
I only do $$ fan duel

But as far as NBA guys .. they'd can't hit free throws, can't pass, can't shoot
Can't defend, can't IQ but are hurt over 60% most NBA pro teams

Ranting I don't buy fact that league isn't soft
Think NBA is in bad direction now with players attitudes even good teams.

Hope Spurs win again
LBJ and spurs only thing in NBA that makes sense.. in watching.

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3/30/2015  11:38 AM
DJ one of the worst thing in the NBA is a guaranteed contract. I have seen this in football too. Once a player signs a contract all the want to do is not get hurt and play soft. I remember once Brandon Jacob signed his contract with the Giants he stopped running hard. He just didn't want to get hurt because NFL contracts aren't guaranteed.

In the NBA it's always my career as soon as they get hurt. Sprained ankle automatically 4-5 games misses or more. Every player automatically thinks Grant Hill situation.

I'm not a fan of today's NBA as I was in the past. Do you guys remember Pat Ewing playing on a bad ankle and all. Jordan coming back after broken foot when his team wanted to shut him down. Bernard King playing with mangled up fingers. Isiah Thomas playing on a sprained ankle versus the Lakers. Jordan playing through the flu. Bird with his bad back. These guys today they got no balls and their love of the game just not like what it use to be. These guys are more the love of the pay check.

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3/30/2015  11:39 AM
YOur gonna need to put up some statistical evidence over the last few years to see how many games are missed by players.
I'd find it interesting.

Maybe social media gives us way too much informtion so "it seems like" is an impression but the fact of games missed would speak for itself.

My thought process is back in the day players who had bodies not meant for pro sports were vetted out in college (most played 3-4 years)or never became stars because of injuries.

Maybe Sam Bowie could have played more, got a huge contract THEN became one of the fragile you speak of. Guys like Jabbar, Oscar, Wilt had fantastic genetic ability to stay healthy. The ones we don't hear about never made it to the nba. now they do, and they break.

DJ, you might be correct, but at the same time I wonder why? Im just throwing out a quick theory.

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3/31/2015  11:31 AM
Nalod wrote:YOur gonna need to put up some statistical evidence over the last few years to see how many games are missed by players.
I'd find it interesting.

Maybe social media gives us way too much informtion so "it seems like" is an impression but the fact of games missed would speak for itself.

My thought process is back in the day players who had bodies not meant for pro sports were vetted out in college (most played 3-4 years)or never became stars because of injuries.

Maybe Sam Bowie could have played more, got a huge contract THEN became one of the fragile you speak of. Guys like Jabbar, Oscar, Wilt had fantastic genetic ability to stay healthy. The ones we don't hear about never made it to the nba. now they do, and they break.

DJ, you might be correct, but at the same time I wonder why? Im just throwing out a quick theory.


agreed

It simply seem to me EVERYONE in whole NBA is hurt or IL..
Even the poor players in NBA with a contract.

For example if you or me, or any one in forum was the 12th player on bench
And main guys go down, we'd be first to seize opportunity if given chance to play
And be on court.. correct?

Not even a broken hand, finger or nose can stop us from doing what we can to go play and
Compete

Politics wise these young or vet so so players in NBA with jobs dont think like that.

They fall and bump a shin or numb a arm, and they are out in no rush to get back on court
They are crap and why rest league kinda sucks with anyone guess whom will win NBA title?.. other than spurs

The example here is applicable to ex nyk JRSmith and Shumpert
Boneheads whom failed to seize moments when neither Amar or Melo was healthy knickerbockers.

League is in bad place now
When nobody NBA guys ain't worth the watch cause they dont show up nor play hard
Reason whole NBA is IL

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3/31/2015  1:00 PM
Not quite the answer I was looking for but interesting never-the-less....

http://instreetclothes.com/nba-injury-analysis/

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3/31/2015  3:34 PM
Nalod wrote:Not quite the answer I was looking for but interesting never-the-less....

http://instreetclothes.com/nba-injury-analysis/

cute ... the knicks really owned that one.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/31/2015  5:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
Nalod wrote:Not quite the answer I was looking for but interesting never-the-less....

http://instreetclothes.com/nba-injury-analysis/

cute ... the knicks really owned that one.

That's a very interesting site link Nalod
didn't know in depth info was logged about ..to that detail from player #1 thru 12,
and any extra bench spots players.

That link also points to the medical staff/team physician/team trainer ?
Interesting, also how poor Knicks rate but they are not only team.

What's up with that ? as far as players and teams decide if there is such a
REAL injury <obvious yes>, then ultimately the timing or treatment paths varies.

I dont say I am a doctor Or know about if REST as opposed to operations gets a player back on court faster.
Who knows?

All I know is I see players messed up at season end of NBA Season, prognosis if an operation
the player seem that unless they Or team pushes the operation during downtime (summer)
why do we see players deciding to take care of an health issue in Sept. Or Oct. prior to NBA Training camp start & ending
Why this occurs if known Injury is in March,April ?

Look at the value-less Andrea B. of Knicks,
I Aint smart to say this fool wasn't hurt for nearly 2 yrs but after seeing his career in Toronto and NY
I can see getting back to Knick Team is neither a priority of Player Andrea, nor agent and team.

I am going to look foolish to say also that I fully 150% understand an Injury such as a D.Rose or P.George type is a 12 -18 month
process, no worries.

But when I see Andrea out as long as players whom had far more horrific real injuries
(P.George worked back to playing practice under 1 yr) then I say NBA guys like Knicks Andrea , D-Will and few others are
whats wrong with NBA and my reason to post this.

I Aint going to question if a player is really hurt, them being shelved by org. is real enough
However I dont see any urgency to work hard whether you're Healthy NBA player OR you are a Hurt NBA Player
whom pride yourself on your NBA Job.

Even the as_s*bin NBA Role players.

I still think the younger set (not 100% all) is from a culture that if they ain't 100%
whether a injury not serious, or some problems healthwise that isnt cardio, they aint suiting up for their team
unless there NBA position/contract is threathened OR they are on an elite team.

Elite team players seem to work harder to do things for themselves and as recommended by team trainers,physicians, etc..

Amare Stout a shell of himself should be proud
he is a warrior but never lets it be known publicly he cant play unless he really cant play
he also shows a old school attitude or pride of his NBA job.

I dont like some of the team/players on NBA
I respect most of them though.

We'll see what occurs as years evolve with players health issues which is part of any pro sports.

These days guys like Nene can have a personal problem (not death in family)
and take off 1/2 week to straighten things out. Fair but its absurd this stuff is made public
when a player whom can play doesn't when the need is only going to suit player (e.g. like NBA playoffs)

Throw Carmelo in there
for his playing in NBA 2015 allstar game
which he didnt deserve to be voted in (hurt) in first place!

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3/31/2015  11:21 PM
maybe they are treated differently with 100million dollar contracts at stake?

I get where your coming from but at the same time would be interested to see the actual numbers and if its been a trend or random.

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4/1/2015  8:29 AM
I am watching hockey a lot and see what real courage is.
I see 20 man who cares... on every team.
20 man who fight until they cannot stay on their fit and stay for each other as one hand.
This is a culture. Culture of winning.
This is respect. Respect to the fans and to the game.
NBA is a show for celebs and tourists. Money making machine with no other purpose.
Just expensive entertainment.
Wonder how sickening it is for Clyde and others who played the game the right way, who were great people first and great players second, and so reached the greatness.
NBA have to change or it will became another WWL... or worth.
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Sorry little down on 2014/2015 NBA, no not cause of NYK, nor due to pro Fantasy sports

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