Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We are going to really miss pick 31 I mean like terribly but the bottom line for the rest is position 1 in ping pong balls and as my h as 30-32 mm in cap space.

We don't have our own 2nd round pick until 2020! If we stay bad, these are all almost lost late 1st rounders.

half empty talk.

half full talk = but look how many 2nd rounders we'll have after 2020

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We are going to really miss pick 31 I mean like terribly but the bottom line for the rest is position 1 in ping pong balls and as my h as 30-32 mm in cap space.

We don't have our own 2nd round pick until 2020! If we stay bad, these are all almost lost late 1st rounders.

Save the "PHil has a dream Speeches" for Dolan, you can pee on his head and tell him it's raining.

The only thing left to do is running around the country all summer with dolans check book. If he got more than 20 hrs of sleep the entire summer, it would be the a crime of the decade.

knicks1248 wrote:Phil hasn't done sht except collect 18 million dollars and put together the worst roster in franchise history. Even the suppose pipeline of young talent in our D league turns out to be more veterans than youth, and they are just as bad if not worse. Care to know their record (10-39)their currently on a 6 game losing streak, and losers of 14 of the last 15,second worse in the entire d league.

Save the "PHil has a dream Speeches" for Dolan, you can pee on his head and tell him it's raining.

The only thing left to do is running around the country all summer with dolans check book. If he got more than 20 hrs of sleep the entire summer, it would be the a crime of the decade.

The only way for the nyk to get out of this 15 year rut WS to bottom out. Look at the position we are in. If the ping pong balls do us justice we could be in for another 12-15 years of good fortune. What did u want 36 wins and to resign iman shumpert? We needed out

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Phil hasn't done sht except collect 18 million dollars and put together the worst roster in franchise history. Even the suppose pipeline of young talent in our D league turns out to be more veterans than youth, and they are just as bad if not worse. Care to know their record (10-39)their currently on a 6 game losing streak, and losers of 14 of the last 15,second worse in the entire d league.

Save the "PHil has a dream Speeches" for Dolan, you can pee on his head and tell him it's raining.

The only thing left to do is running around the country all summer with dolans check book. If he got more than 20 hrs of sleep the entire summer, it would be the a crime of the decade.

The only way for the nyk to get out of this 15 year rut WS to bottom out. Look at the position we are in. If the ping pong balls do us justice we could be in for another 12-15 years of good fortune. What did u want 36 wins and to resign iman shumpert? We needed out

1248 isn't wrong though. Phil still hasn't done anything except be historically bad in a year where we thankfully do have our draft pick.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Phil hasn't done sht except collect 18 million dollars and put together the worst roster in franchise history. Even the suppose pipeline of young talent in our D league turns out to be more veterans than youth, and they are just as bad if not worse. Care to know their record (10-39)their currently on a 6 game losing streak, and losers of 14 of the last 15,second worse in the entire d league.

Save the "PHil has a dream Speeches" for Dolan, you can pee on his head and tell him it's raining.

The only thing left to do is running around the country all summer with dolans check book. If he got more than 20 hrs of sleep the entire summer, it would be the a crime of the decade.

The only way for the nyk to get out of this 15 year rut WS to bottom out. Look at the position we are in. If the ping pong balls do us justice we could be in for another 12-15 years of good fortune. What did u want 36 wins and to resign iman shumpert? We needed out

1248 isn't wrong though. Phil still hasn't done anything except be historically bad in a year where we thankfully do have our draft pick.

Yeah, it's not like Phil got us the cap space this summer, it already existed and Phil actually decreased the amount of cap space we'll have by trading for Calderon. Literally anyone could have done this; a better President/GM would have made sure we got assets when trading Tyson and Shumpert so that our cupboard wasn't completely bare.

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Phil may still find a way to get another pick. I'm not giving up on that just yet. In the end it's water under the bridge now. We can't keep looking back at what mistakes were made and totally miss the opps that are right in front of the team. Phil and his staff have to dig deep and make the absolute most of the few opps they do have. Gotta maximize value from here on.

Because okc is under serious financial considerations I think that pick 19 could be up for grabs of we move the 2018 onto this draft. Phil only has 4 yes I'd be all behind trading.it in as long as there is restriction on it to at least 7

Absolutely not, no more selling out the future to get slightly better today. Whoever we were to draft with OKC's pick isn't going to be the difference between us winning a championship and not; our probably lottery pick in 3 years might be.

Trading a pick from 2018 to 2015 in the right situation for the right player as long as there is reasonable restriction is a no brained. This is going to be a unique draft and if we hit it right that pick will be a core piece of our rebuilding goals. Were still making a pick albeit 3 years early

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Phil may still find a way to get another pick. I'm not giving up on that just yet. In the end it's water under the bridge now. We can't keep looking back at what mistakes were made and totally miss the opps that are right in front of the team. Phil and his staff have to dig deep and make the absolute most of the few opps they do have. Gotta maximize value from here on.

Because okc is under serious financial considerations I think that pick 19 could be up for grabs of we move the 2018 onto this draft. Phil only has 4 yes I'd be all behind trading.it in as long as there is restriction on it to at least 7

Phil has to explore things like this with every team to see if he might be able to make a deal and grab another pick. It may not be possible but then again you won't know unless you try.

This summer will be his most important set of moves because it will likely be the core of the team for the next 5 years. I can't imagine that he's not aware of how strong this draft is and that there are more players worth going after. My guess is that he'll do his best to get another pick. He got Easly, Thanasis and Labeyrie and then still looked for more talent and landed Galloway. It seems to me that he's very open to the idea of multiple picks. It's a low risk, high reward proposition.