But individuatlstic

Notice Willie Stein and Towns really didnt do much offensively but it didnt matter--West Virginia cant see the basket.

I keep jacking Trey Lyles up in my own mock(I have had him up up to #8) but Im darned to say if this guy is not a 4 5 or 6 pick as an athletic powerful mobile 4 who can go inside outside with power and skill with excellent mid range touch. He is the BEST Kentucky frontcourt player on the offensive end--he is the most versatile and skilled. If he was on a team that featured him he might be a top 3 selection. But in my last mock he will be somewhere between pick 5 and 6.

Marcus Lee isnt a top lottery pick but hes a mid range athletic rim protector who has all sorts of potential that hasnt been explored. He lacks offensive skills and he should stay in school--although Im sure there are teams 15-30 who need an athletic C who would easily find room for that jumping jack. Hes the quickest leaper on that team and hes 6-11.

Their guards have not been consistent this year but they seem to have gotten better throughout the year. I think that atleast one Harrison and Booker are first rounders but it is possible that all 4 guys will eventually be first round picks. Ullis reminds me of a tad smaller freshman Chris Paul--yep he does--but he isnt 6-0 like Chris hes 5-9.

Overall this team is the best college team I have ever seen--and the caveat here is that these guys are almost all first or second year players--which in some ways puts them ahead of even the UCLA teams that went 60-0.

I know they had close calls during the season but they also showed the will to win the fight--these guys are skilled huge tough well coached team players and plays both ways with full effort. There is no doubt in my mind that this would be a very fair NBA team at worst a team that probably could win 25-30 games. They do lack a 3 man but it doesnt matter.

Okafor Towns---You are still getting high value on any of these guys but I stay with my belief--Jahill is the most skilled player by far on the offense--not close not even close. I might be wrong and certainly Towns will score in the NBA and if he does grow those 2-3 inches could be an unstoppable force--but right now he still is a tad raw and plays a little out of control. If you put him on Duke there is NO WAY and I mean NO way that he could carry them like Ok4 does--he simply would foul out and not be reliable he creates too much contact every time I see him. I fully understand why some people think he might be the best long term prospect--I went that way for awhile but right now hes not--hes not close to Ok4. he will need time hes NO Patrick Ewing in year 1. We'll have to wait and see IF he grows a bit more and hones his game out.

BRIGGS wrote:First off there is no doubt in my mind that Kentucky has 5 first round picks in their frontocurt and they could beat the Knicks in a 7 game series--no doubt about that.

But individuatlstic

Notice Willie Stein and Towns really didnt do much offensively but it didnt matter--West Virginia cant see the basket.

I keep jacking Trey Lyles up in my own mock(I have had him up up to #8) but Im darned to say if this guy is not a 4 5 or 6 pick as an athletic powerful mobile 4 who can go inside outside with power and skill with excellent mid range touch. He is the BEST Kentucky frontcourt player on the offensive end--he is the most versatile and skilled. If he was on a team that featured him he might be a top 3 selection. But in my last mock he will be somewhere between pick 5 and 6.

Marcus Lee isnt a top lottery pick but hes a mid range athletic rim protector who has all sorts of potential that hasnt been explored. He lacks offensive skills and he should stay in school--although Im sure there are teams 15-30 who need an athletic C who would easily find room for that jumping jack. Hes the quickest leaper on that team and hes 6-11.

Their guards have not been consistent this year but they seem to have gotten better throughout the year. I think that atleast one Harrison and Booker are first rounders but it is possible that all 4 guys will eventually be first round picks. Ullis reminds me of a tad smaller freshman Chris Paul--yep he does--but he isnt 6-0 like Chris hes 5-9.

Overall this team is the best college team I have ever seen--and the caveat here is that these guys are almost all first or second year players--which in some ways puts them ahead of even the UCLA teams that went 60-0.

I know they had close calls during the season but they also showed the will to win the fight--these guys are skilled huge tough well coached team players and plays both ways with full effort. There is no doubt in my mind that this would be a very fair NBA team at worst a team that probably could win 25-30 games. They do lack a 3 man but it doesnt matter.

Okafor Towns---You are still getting high value on any of these guys but I stay with my belief--Jahill is the most skilled player by far on the offense--not close not even close. I might be wrong and certainly Towns will score in the NBA and if he does grow those 2-3 inches could be an unstoppable force--but right now he still is a tad raw and plays a little out of control. If you put him on Duke there is NO WAY and I mean NO way that he could carry them like Ok4 does--he simply would foul out and not be reliable he creates too much contact every time I see him. I fully understand why some people think he might be the best long term prospect--I went that way for awhile but right now hes not--hes not close to Ok4. he will need time hes NO Patrick Ewing in year 1. We'll have to wait and see IF he grows a bit more and hones his game out.

Just a thought, but Ewing was in no way seen as an elite scorer coming out of Georgetown. He was perceived to be a formidable defensive presence. That he showed an effective mid-range jumper and an effective post game so early in his NBA career actually surprised many experts.

There's really only two first rders and that's towns and stein.... U gotta do more in college than put the ball in the hoop...

NardDogNation wrote:I don't buy the Karl Towns hype at all. I think he's got bust written all over him. Worst still, hes built like a guy that will have a bunch of leg injuries. I hope that the kid never dawns a Knick uniform.

O really, please explain this "he has bust written all over him."

FistOfOakley wrote:And the best college team I've ever seen were tarkanian and Larry Johnsons rebels... They dominated at the peak of college ball.. And they only had 3 first rd picks... Kentucky's gonna have trouble against Arizona...killing wvu isn't really an accomplishment...

Kentucky isn't invincible... If the Harrison's get hot or booker is hitting.g.. They are insanely tough to beat but that hardly happens even half the time...

FistOfOakley wrote:And they might get picked in the first rd.. But aside from dakari.. The other guys won't be anything in the pros...they are good college players sort of like that last great UNC team...

Which one was that? Im 46 and I dont remember any North carolina team with 5 guys over 6-10 I disagree all of these guys have their own talents that should bode well for them in the NBA. Lee should come back to expand his offense---maybe Johnson as well. But if they come out they could all go rd 1.

NardDogNation wrote:

TPercy wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I don't buy the Karl Towns hype at all. I think he's got bust written all over him. Worst still, hes built like a guy that will have a bunch of leg injuries. I hope that the kid never dawns a Knick uniform.

O really, please explain this "he has bust written all over him."

Chalk it up to my spidey sense. I think that people continually overlook/understate how raw he is because of how easy it is for him to dominate smaller, inferior players on a NBA caliber team. I also think people give him a pass because of how rare it is to see a big that can utilize skill on either side of the floor on any level. But he has bone-headed tendancies that I don't think experience will solve and when compared to pros,I don't think he's that remarkable. Add to the fact that top heavy big men end up being injury prone (see Yao Ming, Shaq, Greg Oden) and it becomes difficult for me to see him developing any kind of consistency in his career.

I know this opinion isn't en vogue and will have people trying to play me out but this isn't first time I was in the justified minority. I'm willing to be wrong on this one but I don't think it'll be the case. For Towns' sake, I hope I am in fact wrong though.

I know many of his issues were foul related (Which, in itself, should be area of concern.), but he really did disappear in this game.

WVU is one of the worst offensive teams I've seen at this level in the tournament, and it looked like Kentucky could have beaten them without Stein or Towns being on Kentucky, but I really expected Towns to have a better game than what we saw.

As rookies. Towns will be fine