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3/25/2015  1:05 PM
This is very disturbing. It wasn't enough to toss the guy from the game. MSG operatives sending emails to this guy's job to get him fired is really twisted.

Dolan and his culture of fear is truly wicked.

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/knicks-fan-claims-defamation-led-to-firing/


Knicks fan claims defamation led to firing
March 25th, 2015 9:19 am

Knicks fan Anthony Rotondi was fired from his job as a trader as a result of screaming “You stink!” at Carmelo Anthony, he says (ESPN, March 24).

According to a court filing Monday, the fan alleges that Madison Square Garden’s defamation of his name directly resulted in his termination from his job as a trader it ING.

The lawsuit stated that MSG vice president Courtney Jeffries told another ING employee that Rotondi was disorderly, interfered with the game and refused to leave after he was ejected during the Jan. 7, 2014 game against the Pistons.

“The amended complaint contains dramatic new details including a bombshell email from MSG to ING,” Rotondi’s lawyer said in a statement. “It clearly shows the lengths MSG went to intimidate ING that directly led to Anthony’s termination. This is MSG overreaching at its most invidious way, directly resulting in personal and professional damage to Anthony.”

Rotondi, who filed the lawsuit in September, was using ING’s four courtside seats with a colleague and two clients. The new filing says that his 14 1/2 months without pay has resulted in the loss of $307,386 and potentially his livelihood as he has been unable to find a job since.

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3/25/2015  1:09 PM
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3/25/2015  1:23 PM
Pay him off by letting him be the Knicks' representative at the draft lottery selection process.
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3/25/2015  2:18 PM
So we lay judgement based on this blog?

I recall there were witness to say the guy thrown out because he was disturbing others around him.
He was drinking and was acting the fool.
IN my world you take clients out and act like that you get fired. I want to see the E-mail, not take the lawyers word for it.

Ever been to a Jet game? Its been a while but its no place to take a kid in some sections. Parents and patrons have the right to enjoy the game without loud mouth jerks spewing nonsense and ignoring requests.

If your company gives you tickets and you take clients your on company time.

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3/25/2015  2:21 PM
He might've deserved to be kicked out but to strong arm his employer ING(msg client) into firing him seems a bit much. But classic MSG
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3/25/2015  2:24 PM
I can see emailing ING to request that they never send him to the game with the tickets ING was afforded but to strong arm ING into having him removed? Which seems to be the case of why else would be be fired?
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3/25/2015  2:31 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I can see emailing ING to request that they never send him to the game with the tickets ING was afforded but to strong arm ING into having him removed? Which seems to be the case of why else would be be fired?

where did you see that?

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3/25/2015  2:43 PM
Nalod wrote:So we lay judgement based on this blog?

I recall there were witness to say the guy thrown out because he was disturbing others around him.
He was drinking and was acting the fool.
IN my world you take clients out and act like that you get fired. I want to see the E-mail, not take the lawyers word for it.

Ever been to a Jet game? Its been a while but its no place to take a kid in some sections. Parents and patrons have the right to enjoy the game without loud mouth jerks spewing nonsense and ignoring requests.

If your company gives you tickets and you take clients your on company time.

MSG makes a chunk of its money selling alcohol at games. Sports + Alcohol = Sometimes raucous fans. Dolan likes to collect that beer money.

We have not seen the email. All we know is they sent one. The content could be vanilla, but it takes very little guesswork to understand that sending that email would jeopardize his job.

When an MSG exec sent that email, they were not only dictating to a box seat holder how their guests should behave, they were also getting even with this guy who defamed their Melo. He crossed their line and MSG retaliated in a manner they knew could cost him his job.

What's worse? Being foolish for one night and maybe embarrassing yourself or taking an action that may cost him his career. For all we know, the guy is a complete tool and he had issues at work and this was the final straw.

So the email had its intended effect of keeping MSG clients in line. MSG doesn't care about this guy and if he lost his job as a result they won't lose any sleep over it.

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3/25/2015  2:52 PM
Splat wrote:
Nalod wrote:So we lay judgement based on this blog?

I recall there were witness to say the guy thrown out because he was disturbing others around him.
He was drinking and was acting the fool.
IN my world you take clients out and act like that you get fired. I want to see the E-mail, not take the lawyers word for it.

Ever been to a Jet game? Its been a while but its no place to take a kid in some sections. Parents and patrons have the right to enjoy the game without loud mouth jerks spewing nonsense and ignoring requests.

If your company gives you tickets and you take clients your on company time.

MSG makes a chunk of its money selling alcohol at games. Sports + Alcohol = Sometimes raucous fans. Dolan likes to collect that beer money.

We have not seen the email. All we know is they sent one. The content could be vanilla, but it takes very little guesswork to understand that sending that email would jeopardize his job.

When an MSG exec sent that email, they were not only dictating to a box seat holder how their guests should behave, they were also getting even with this guy who defamed their Melo. He crossed their line and MSG retaliated in a manner they knew could cost him his job.

What's worse? Being foolish for one night and maybe embarrassing yourself or taking an action that may cost him his career. For all we know, the guy is a complete tool and he had issues at work and this was the final straw.

So the email had its intended effect of keeping MSG clients in line. MSG doesn't care about this guy and if he lost his job as a result they won't lose any sleep over it.

What if the email was sent at the request of ING?

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3/25/2015  2:58 PM
martin wrote:
Splat wrote:
Nalod wrote:So we lay judgement based on this blog?

I recall there were witness to say the guy thrown out because he was disturbing others around him.
He was drinking and was acting the fool.
IN my world you take clients out and act like that you get fired. I want to see the E-mail, not take the lawyers word for it.

Ever been to a Jet game? Its been a while but its no place to take a kid in some sections. Parents and patrons have the right to enjoy the game without loud mouth jerks spewing nonsense and ignoring requests.

If your company gives you tickets and you take clients your on company time.

MSG makes a chunk of its money selling alcohol at games. Sports + Alcohol = Sometimes raucous fans. Dolan likes to collect that beer money.

We have not seen the email. All we know is they sent one. The content could be vanilla, but it takes very little guesswork to understand that sending that email would jeopardize his job.

When an MSG exec sent that email, they were not only dictating to a box seat holder how their guests should behave, they were also getting even with this guy who defamed their Melo. He crossed their line and MSG retaliated in a manner they knew could cost him his job.

What's worse? Being foolish for one night and maybe embarrassing yourself or taking an action that may cost him his career. For all we know, the guy is a complete tool and he had issues at work and this was the final straw.

So the email had its intended effect of keeping MSG clients in line. MSG doesn't care about this guy and if he lost his job as a result they won't lose any sleep over it.

What if the email was sent at the request of ING?

Do you mean what if they asked MSG to send it so they could have probable cause for firing him?

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3/25/2015  3:08 PM
Who knows? The Garden is know for doing this kind of thing
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3/25/2015  3:13 PM
Nalod wrote:So we lay judgement based on this blog?

I recall there were witness to say the guy thrown out because he was disturbing others around him.
He was drinking and was acting the fool.
IN my world you take clients out and act like that you get fired. I want to see the E-mail, not take the lawyers word for it.

Ever been to a Jet game? Its been a while but its no place to take a kid in some sections. Parents and patrons have the right to enjoy the game without loud mouth jerks spewing nonsense and ignoring requests.

If your company gives you tickets and you take clients your on company time.

+1. He was there on the company's doll and was therefore representing his company while there as a patron. Embarrass the company and/or jeopardize it's business relationship with another company and you run the risk of getting your ass fired. I'm not sure what the email contained but by all accounts, the guy was behaving like an idiot.

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3/25/2015  3:28 PM
gunsnewing wrote:He might've deserved to be kicked out but to strong arm his employer ING(msg client) into firing him seems a bit much. But classic MSG

Howard Lorber, a Knicks season ticket holder for 20 years and chairman of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, said he was in his seat in the front row behind the basket on the night of the Detroit game and complained to security guards about a fan who was heckling Anthony from the seats above him.

“I understand heckling and all that,” Lorber said in a phone interview. “Up to a point it’s fine. But there are other people there. When a guy starts carrying on and starts cursing you reach a point where it’s not right.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-01/carmelo-catcall-gets-trader-bounced-from-game-cue-suit

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3/25/2015  3:33 PM
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:He might've deserved to be kicked out but to strong arm his employer ING(msg client) into firing him seems a bit much. But classic MSG

Howard Lorber, a Knicks season ticket holder for 20 years and chairman of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, said he was in his seat in the front row behind the basket on the night of the Detroit game and complained to security guards about a fan who was heckling Anthony from the seats above him.

“I understand heckling and all that,” Lorber said in a phone interview. “Up to a point it’s fine. But there are other people there. When a guy starts carrying on and starts cursing you reach a point where it’s not right.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-01/carmelo-catcall-gets-trader-bounced-from-game-cue-suit

In the history of sports, I've never heard of something like this. An unruly fan disrespecting the players? A drunk man spewing profanities? This guy made history. Sports will never be the same again.

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3/25/2015  6:49 PM
Splat wrote:
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:He might've deserved to be kicked out but to strong arm his employer ING(msg client) into firing him seems a bit much. But classic MSG

Howard Lorber, a Knicks season ticket holder for 20 years and chairman of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, said he was in his seat in the front row behind the basket on the night of the Detroit game and complained to security guards about a fan who was heckling Anthony from the seats above him.

“I understand heckling and all that,” Lorber said in a phone interview. “Up to a point it’s fine. But there are other people there. When a guy starts carrying on and starts cursing you reach a point where it’s not right.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-01/carmelo-catcall-gets-trader-bounced-from-game-cue-suit

In the history of sports, I've never heard of something like this. An unruly fan disrespecting the players? A drunk man spewing profanities? This guy made history. Sports will never be the same again.


Rotondi, who had worked for ING for 12 years, was at the game with his supervisor, Joann Moran, and two clients at the time of the incident.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/trader-claims-unfairly-ejected-knicks-game-msg-article-1.1959034
Seems like if you mess up and your supervisor is there and you get fired that it would be a move by your company and not a strong arm move by MSG no?
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3/25/2015  7:00 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Splat wrote:
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:He might've deserved to be kicked out but to strong arm his employer ING(msg client) into firing him seems a bit much. But classic MSG

Howard Lorber, a Knicks season ticket holder for 20 years and chairman of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, said he was in his seat in the front row behind the basket on the night of the Detroit game and complained to security guards about a fan who was heckling Anthony from the seats above him.

“I understand heckling and all that,” Lorber said in a phone interview. “Up to a point it’s fine. But there are other people there. When a guy starts carrying on and starts cursing you reach a point where it’s not right.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-01/carmelo-catcall-gets-trader-bounced-from-game-cue-suit

In the history of sports, I've never heard of something like this. An unruly fan disrespecting the players? A drunk man spewing profanities? This guy made history. Sports will never be the same again.


Rotondi, who had worked for ING for 12 years, was at the game with his supervisor, Joann Moran, and two clients at the time of the incident.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/trader-claims-unfairly-ejected-knicks-game-msg-article-1.1959034
Seems like if you mess up and your supervisor is there and you get fired that it would be a move by your company and not a strong arm move by MSG no?

Yeah, that could get you fired without any help from MSG. I don't think anybody will say he exercised good judgment. I just found it funny that somehow a fan misbehaving is soooooo wacky. However, I wouldn't recommend mooning anyone when your boss is around. But the world has changed. I had a supervisor try to get me into bed at one office party. These days that gets you denounced as a demon. I just asked her to back off and she never said another thing about it. These days, one drunken night at a game and you're unemployable.

I still would like to see that email now. I'm curious.

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3/26/2015  8:26 AM
Did ING ask MSG for a recap of what happened? Is that the "smoking gun"?

One would have to assume this was a little more than a few cuss words and he can canned for one incident. This news story also has a nice slant to depict him as innocent and the big bad corp. machine chewed him up and fired him.

I thought that if ING was warned it cannot happen again or they would lose their seats. Obviously its easy to just forbid him to ever use the seats again. I doubt they'd just fire him because they value their seats more than his career. But its obvious he had problems and its obvious he valued his drinking and ranting more than his career as well.

Lets put it this way, the guy went to the game and made the papers the next day. Thats not just a little heckling is it?

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3/26/2015  8:36 AM
All of this is well and good, but please, always remember, any idiot's actions have to be the result of the evil Emperor Jimmie and his culture of fear!

Holeee shit! Really?


A fucking tool gets fired for acting like a douchebag in front of his manager, and plays the deranged facepainter from the nosebleeds so bad he gets objective others to comment on it. He gets his stupid azz canned and of course, it's MSG's fault for selling alcohol at games. More telling is he gets some off-work ambulance chaser to spread this dopey lawsuit in the papers for him. Will be really interested to see how this pans out. If he wins, hooray! The MSG death star of fear takes a hit! If the suit gets thrown out, see? -- it's the power of the corporate trolls beating down the poor drunken common man!

Drink responsibly. Heckle responsibly. Especially in corporate box seats.

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3/26/2015  8:45 AM
I forget where I originally read this story but it read much differently. 'You stink' was not at all what was said, and let be honest, the guy isn't in 3rd grade, so who are they even trying to kid by claiming that was what was said. If he has corporate seats, had clients with him, and acted in a way to misrepresent the company and msg partner, then being fired isn't out of the ordinary at all.
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3/26/2015  9:17 AM
I don't think that he has to have clients with him...It's understood that if you are an employee of an organization and you are using corporate seats then you are representing that organization..That is why it is not encouraged to give away corporate seats to clients without an employee being present...Everyone who takes clients out know they risk their jobs if they misbehave using corporate tickets at sporting events.
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