holfresh wrote:Wing players handle the ball in a triangle offense..

LOL who is that Lance Thomas ?

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:Wing players handle the ball in a triangle offense..

LOL who is that Lance Thomas ?

Small forwards and shooting guards when they ran the offense..JR Smith, Shump and Melo...Tim Jr struggled if you recalled..

BRIGGS wrote:We need to find guys who can play the game at a faster pace. I think that Schveyd with the right running mate can go in that direction--but the offense needs much more pace as a foundation starting next year--we need faster players. If I see Calderon near a ball with a Knick logo on it

What difference would it make if your instructed to set up the triangle. How many times have we seen players jet down the court ahead of everyone only to pull back and set up a play. Larkin is the fastest guy in the NBA, and what about the 100's of times we seen shump do that. when your trying to establish a system as difficult as the triangle, you get players thinking too much.

gunsnewing wrote:You play slower if you draft Ok4. Halfcourt ball. Back to the Ewing/Melo days

you mean like how slow Duke plays

helloharv wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:You play slower if you draft Ok4. Halfcourt ball. Back to the Ewing/Melo days

you mean like how slow Duke plays

Duke puts one slow guy on the floor at one time.....The other 4 players are up and down guards / fowards.

With the Knicks, they will have OK4 and Melo on the floor....That already shows you down. Then you have to find a big to protect the rim, so now you have Melo, OK4 and a slow Big rim protector. Add two big guards (Phils type).....and poof....you have a very slow walk the ball up and down team. Not saying thats wrong or right, just the facts when you draft OK4.

When you draft Towns, you already have that rim protector. Melo is your low post scorer.....The team will be much faster!

With our over load of SG's, now that we have Ledo, we can afford to trade someone for a pick.

Draft OK4 and trade him for the #2 pick and a second round pick.

I don't know, you guys are better at this make believe trade stuff than me, but with another pick, you can add a fast guard. Still got some fast vets like the PG that used to be in Orlando.

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We need to find guys who can play the game at a faster pace. I think that Schveyd with the right running mate can go in that direction--but the offense needs much more pace as a foundation starting next year--we need faster players. If I see Calderon near a ball with a Knick logo on it

What difference would it make if your instructed to set up the triangle. How many times have we seen players jet down the court ahead of everyone only to pull back and set up a play. Larkin is the fastest guy in the NBA, and what about the 100's of times we seen shump do that. when your trying to establish a system as difficult as the triangle, you get players thinking too much.

This is not a running team. We have a few guys who could get out and run but they also have to improve as Players. THJ, Early, Larkin, Acy, Galloway and Shved are the fastest guys who could push the pace. We also have some guys aren't that fast and don't fit an up and down style.

Shved pushes the ball when he gets the rebound, but you don't always have an opportunity to beat the defense down and get to the basket. This isn't the damn D league. Our guards don't want to play out of control and we have players who aren't Gazelles so don't expect them to run like a running team.

They will push it when it's there but this team isn't looking to be an up and down team either. If any of our guards see that they can beat the defense they go, but you have limited chances when you can't stop anyone, rebound, get blocks and steals and get out on the break. When the Knicks do those things they do push the ball but it's just not as often as other teams with better defense. Here is some highlights of the Knicks with Shved in the mix. It's clear that he helps to push the ball but also drive in the half court. He takes full advantage of all the options in the offense. We need more players like him. That's what I see Phil trying to do.

----->This is not a running team You're right its a fcking terrible team.

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:You play slower if you draft Ok4. Halfcourt ball. Back to the Ewing/Melo days

No way--Id put Jahi at 5 --did you see him in the MCd game up and down? Did you know that Karl Towns in an up and won game with the top guys had 6 points and 2 rebounds while Jahill had 17-7?

Got you on this Briggs...I can't pull up past threads as good as you guys. But you clearly said OK4 is a PF at the next level. Thats the delima I have. If he's a PF, then you need a shot blocking center. If he's a center, then we have nobody to protect the rim. Our only defense will be OK4's offense. Whoever scores the most wins!

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:You play slower if you draft Ok4. Halfcourt ball. Back to the Ewing/Melo days

No way--Id put Jahi at 5 --did you see him in the MCd game up and down? Did you know that Karl Towns in an up and won game with the top guys had 6 points and 2 rebounds while Jahill had 17-7?

Got you on this Briggs...I can't pull up past threads as good as you guys. But you clearly said OK4 is a PF at the next level. Thats the delima I have. If he's a PF, then you need a shot blocking center. If he's a center, then we have nobody to protect the rim. Our only defense will be OK4's offense. Whoever scores the most wins!