There are going to be some busts in this draft and Im terrified we are getting that guy

how amazing would it be if there was was a kentucky/duke final and towns/ok4 went at it for rights to that #1 pick. im hoping.

fishmike wrote:Towns is infuriating to scout. Its such a team concept they have (which is what you want) its very hard to disern Town's impact over that of Stein's or Harrison...

agree, i've mentioned the team-concept before as well. ok4 has been beasting, killing doubleteams all year, so you definitely have to like that about him. another thing is.. even though i do think towns ends up being a great player and the best player in the draft, it's going to take him a few years to get there because he is definitely very raw. ok4 is going to come into the league beasting (atleast i think) so that might be something that pjax takes into consideration with melo on the team.

Needs to tighten up a bit. IF he can be an elite post player, that'd be great.

FistOfOakley wrote:there is absolutely nothing raw about towns... he is producing at a high level...

fishmike wrote:Right after Duke lost to that NO... funny as OK4 had 28pts/8rebs/2blocks on 13-18 shooting.

There are going to be some busts in this draft and Im terrified we are getting that guy

...you and me both man. I won't say the name because it'll result in a needlessly long exchange. However, I will say that "potential" isn't always what it is cracked up to be. Kwame Brown had potential....

FistOfOakley wrote:i mean he's not tim duncan yet but he can do a lot of things that nba centers can't do...

i mean just name all the centers that can hit a jump shot.. it's actually not that many if you think about it...

now you take that list and name all those guys that are fantastic on the boards and good defensively....

you would probably be left with something like horford, noah, duncan, mozgov, ibaka, valanciunous... and out of all those guys, there's no reason he can't be better than mozgov and valanciunous right now... and he's certainly better than bargnani and jason smith...

I ask because I see all the skills that his believers see, I just dont see them consistantly. So when his jumper doesnt fall, or he cant stay out of foul trouble when every guard wants to posterize him at MSG what makes Towns stick?

Does Towns have a go-to move that's going to get him touches? Is he strong enough to guard 5s? or quick enough to guard NBA 4s?

Vmart wrote:I saw the ND game and OK4 was awesome but his free throw shooting cost them the game. He hit his free throws and Duke wins that game. But with that said OK4 hands down is the best player coming out of this draft. The guy who made this last mock draft is smoking something or just wants to stir the pot. But Russell at two? I wouldn't take Russell top four much less two.

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:I saw the ND game and OK4 was awesome but his free throw shooting cost them the game. He hit his free throws and Duke wins that game. But with that said OK4 hands down is the best player coming out of this draft. The guy who made this last mock draft is smoking something or just wants to stir the pot. But Russell at two? I wouldn't take Russell top four much less two.

have you seen him? 2 is exactly where I have him... OK/Russell/Towns in that order at the top

I have seen him play. I think he is being a little over hyped. He doesn't have speed and athleticism that you would want from a number two overall pick. While he has shooting ability he simply isn't the slasher and finisher at the rim. He never runs a fast break for some reason instead of putting pressure on the opposing team he seems to slow down and initiated majority of his passes from the top of the arc. You never see him go at the basket hard on a break. Or create on his way to the basket for a teammate.

I think he is a good player but I wouldn't take him at two, 4-8 I would take him there.

crzymdups wrote:Towns, Russell and OK4 are definitely the top three prospects. I have a hard time believing OK4 won't go first overall.

Though I still think Russell will be the best player in this draft. The rules in the NBA are geared toward making guys with his size and skill set stars these days (see Steph Curry and Russell Westbrook, etc)

not anything at all like russell westbrook.