yellowboy90 wrote:

Splat wrote:So Shved has basically pushed Larkin off the team. Not that Shane was coming back anyway, but it seems definitive now

Probably, I just hope that they work it out that they give him a contract lower than his qualifying offer to take his $6m cap hold of the cap. Regardless of what some have said the thing about SHved is that he doesn't have a real track record. Looking at his data on Draftexpres he never really played that many games overseas and besides his rookie year he hasn't played that much in the nba. THjr has played more NBA minutes than Shved and he is a bench player. So who knows if he is a poor shooter or can improve his shot.

I know triangle philosophy wants good shooters, but even if he is below average isn't the more important quality the ability to orchestrate, penetrate and get to the line? I mean the Knicks could have a quasi-Rubio player here

holfresh wrote:Shrevd will be a tough decision..27 yr old next season making 4 mil per ..Seems like his game isn't complete but has been in the league at least 5 years..Tough choice..

Only his 3rd year in the NBA.

Came over to the NBA at a later age.

Still has a lot of time to prove himself for next year.

Splat wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Splat wrote:So Shved has basically pushed Larkin off the team. Not that Shane was coming back anyway, but it seems definitive now

Probably, I just hope that they work it out that they give him a contract lower than his qualifying offer to take his $6m cap hold of the cap. Regardless of what some have said the thing about SHved is that he doesn't have a real track record. Looking at his data on Draftexpres he never really played that many games overseas and besides his rookie year he hasn't played that much in the nba. THjr has played more NBA minutes than Shved and he is a bench player. So who knows if he is a poor shooter or can improve his shot.

I know triangle philosophy wants good shooters, but even if he is below average isn't the more important quality the ability to orchestrate, penetrate and get to the line? I mean the Knicks could have a quasi-Rubio player here

yuck, imo.

Judging Shved so far in Ny:

Regardless of his poor shooting he can get to the line and that helps his lack of shooting ability. Also, that is a skill other Knicks outside of Melo lacks. Every offense needs people who can get easy points and Phil offenses had players that could get to the line. If that ability to get to the line 7-8 times a game is real Shved becomes a efficient version of Rondo/Rubio but that is a big if. Demar Derozan was a terrible offensive player

His ability to orchestrate and rebound also helps him in earning a shot. If he couldn't do those things it would be a waste to even think about giving him a chance. All I am saying is that his entire career (overseas/states) is a small sample size which makes him a mystery. This whats separates someone like him and Bargs.

Splat wrote:So are the Knicks going to blow this and win the game?

Would it be guilty to say yes here?

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:So are the Knicks going to blow this and win the game?

Phil wants them to win and talked with the team. I think they win this.

What Phil have talked actually?

WaltLongmire wrote:We actually have a nice looking offense at times.

Compare the movement you see now with what we showed in the beginning of the year and it is like comparing night to day.

Also to the Shved doubters this is who he actually is as a player. The guy has talent and just needed a chance. If he can continue to improve and get a bit stronger he's a great find.