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3/5/2015  9:41 PM
I'm start with Okafor. Nbadraft.net compares him to Al Jefferson. I can see it... he has a career average of 17/9...if he can do that for us eventually, that's great. In Boston he put up mediocre numbers in 18 mins per his first 2 seasons. He's been a 20 pt scorer a few times. Which do you think he compares to? What do you think he'll do his first year in the nba?
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3/5/2015  9:42 PM
Btw..... you guys can talk about any prospect you want. I just started with okafor
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3/5/2015  10:03 PM
there aren't too many good comps for ok4... i would say he's much more athletic and skilled pekovic if you go by aesthetics... that'd be selling him short tho... statisticallly.. he's sort of like blake griffin and i think he's the more gravity bound version of him at center...

stanley johnson is a ron artest clone...

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3/5/2015  10:15 PM
Okafor is very similar to Jefferson, just bigger and better. But that's a close comp.
Towns reminds me of a cross between horford and cousins. Cousins size and horford all around skills and intangibles.
Russell is very close to harden.
Mundiay is unknown.
WCS is similar to Tyson chandler.
After that I'm not sure if you can realistically compare any players to all stars in the league.
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3/5/2015  11:12 PM
Russell is a 100% Steph Curry to me.
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3/6/2015  1:51 AM
FistOfOakley wrote:there aren't too many good comps for ok4... i would say he's much more athletic and skilled pekovic if you go by aesthetics... that'd be selling him short tho... statisticallly.. he's sort of like blake griffin and i think he's the more gravity bound version of him at center...

stanley johnson is a ron artest clone...

I see OK4 as a cross between Blake Griffin/Brad Daugherty. The Blake Griffin comparison comes from there ability to score in close and the scrutiny both players get for their D. OK4 reminds me of Brad Daugherty because of the way he passes out of the low post. I can see the Al Jefferson comparisons, but OK4 is far more advanced in the post than Al was at the same stage. Plus, Al is just an OK passer from the post.

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3/6/2015  5:21 AM
Ok so you guys think Okafor will be better than Al Jefferson? I can't see the connection to Blake Griffin at all but Brad Daughtery yes. Brad was 19 pts 9 rebounds and 3 assists for his career. He averaged 15/8/3 ast his rookie year. I think that might actually be a realistic line for okafor if he really is going to be the real deal. It's looking like we're going to have the biggest shot at him so he might end up being our guy.
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3/6/2015  8:17 AM
What's the ceiling for Myles Turner I wonder? A Serge Ibaka/Kevin Garnett hybrid? He's gonna need some work but I like this kid.
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3/6/2015  10:55 AM
I think OK4 is already better than Al Jeff. At this age he's way ahead of the curve. I think he's gonna develop even more. Wait till OK4 get in a pro level Conditioning and training program to tighten up his game.

Russell is a mix of Curry and Kidd. He rebounds like Kidd and has the offense of Curry.

Towns makes me think of a smaller Bynum. The way he moves is very similar to me.

Portia reminds me of Bosh. Skilled and very much a finesse big.

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3/6/2015  11:02 AM
nixluva wrote:I think OK4 is already better than Al Jeff. At this age he's way ahead of the curve. I think he's gonna develop even more. Wait till OK4 get in a pro level Conditioning and training program to tighten up his game.

Russell is a mix of Curry and Kidd. He rebounds like Kidd and has the offense of Curry.

Towns makes me think of a smaller Bynum. The way he moves is very similar to me.

Portia reminds me of Bosh. Skilled and very much a finesse big.

If Okafor is already better than Al Jefferson then we are getting a kid that is going to be 20/10/2 blk.... do you see that in this kid? If the Knicks had al Jeff with melo we'd be really good.

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3/6/2015  11:40 AM
An apt article for this thread:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2381880-2015-nba-draft-notebook-jahlil-okafor-breaking-mold-when-finding-comparisons

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3/6/2015  11:52 AM
smackeddog wrote:An apt article for this thread:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2381880-2015-nba-draft-notebook-jahlil-okafor-breaking-mold-when-finding-comparisons

Yeah interesting article but I dunno if he's different than any prospect from the last 10 years. Is okafor a once in a generation type talent? I'm still on the fence on how good he's going to be in the pros

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3/6/2015  12:06 PM
EnySpree wrote:
smackeddog wrote:An apt article for this thread:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2381880-2015-nba-draft-notebook-jahlil-okafor-breaking-mold-when-finding-comparisons

Yeah interesting article but I dunno if he's different than any prospect from the last 10 years. Is okafor a once in a generation type talent? I'm still on the fence on how good he's going to be in the pros

I liked the article, but I agree- he doesn't really sound as revolutionary as they conclude. In fact they don't even make a proper case for their point!

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3/6/2015  12:08 PM
http://teamstre.am/1G3zs3X

this article post stat projections for the nba

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3/6/2015  1:44 PM
OK4 reminds me of Sullinger.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/6/2015  2:19 PM
i think ok4 is probably on the same level as al jefferson now... but he definitely has a chance to be a lot better... it took jefferson awhile to get going and i'm pretty sure ok4 will avg something like 16-18ppg right away...
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3/6/2015  3:23 PM
EnySpree wrote:
nixluva wrote:I think OK4 is already better than Al Jeff. At this age he's way ahead of the curve. I think he's gonna develop even more. Wait till OK4 get in a pro level Conditioning and training program to tighten up his game.

Russell is a mix of Curry and Kidd. He rebounds like Kidd and has the offense of Curry.

Towns makes me think of a smaller Bynum. The way he moves is very similar to me.

Portia reminds me of Bosh. Skilled and very much a finesse big.

If Okafor is already better than Al Jefferson then we are getting a kid that is going to be 20/10/2 blk.... do you see that in this kid? If the Knicks had al Jeff with melo we'd be really good.


There's nothing stopping OK4 from eclipsing Al Jeff IMO. He's a more talented version of Al Jeff. They track very much the same but with Okafor he shows far more agility and skill at such an early stage. Once this kid can focus 100% on basketball and get with pro trainers and skills people I can see him adding a lot more to his game. Just improving his FT shooting would add a lot to his game not to mention anything else. Both players are very similar but I see more potential in OK4.

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3/6/2015  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/6/2015  4:43 PM
EnySpree wrote:
nixluva wrote:I think OK4 is already better than Al Jeff. At this age he's way ahead of the curve. I think he's gonna develop even more. Wait till OK4 get in a pro level Conditioning and training program to tighten up his game.

Russell is a mix of Curry and Kidd. He rebounds like Kidd and has the offense of Curry.

Towns makes me think of a smaller Bynum. The way he moves is very similar to me.

Portia reminds me of Bosh. Skilled and very much a finesse big.

If Okafor is already better than Al Jefferson then we are getting a kid that is going to be 20/10/2 blk.... do you see that in this kid? If the Knicks had al Jeff with melo we'd be really good.

OK4 is solid, but I can't say he's better than Al Jefferson or any starting caliber NBA forward. OK4 could be the next sullinger, nobody knows. Once you become an instant millionaire, you will instantly change. How will the money and fame affect OK4? Nobody knows. How will the practice and everyday grind affect OK4? What about the energy he now has to spend on defense, when playing man to man and guarding the elite players like Tim Duncan? Especially for a guy that has a weakness on defense. I know when you exert too much energy on defense, your offense will take a major hit. So nobody knows about any of these college prospects. His ceiling is Al Jefferson....I'm willing to put money on that. But it could also be higher or lower, depending on his work ethic and willingness to improve. Jordan and Kobe (for example) wanted to be the best. Others just want that paycheck to buy momma a house....Then they lose that motivation, and their career falls off the map.

But NBA comparisons are always fun.....As long as you keep it real. Between Sullinger and Jefferson is a good potential window for OK4. I would still trade him for anybody that thinks he's better than Al right now.....Because if they believe that, then picking OK4 and trading him might be a better move for the entire team. Anybody with a young player on Al Jefferson's level with Tim Duncan's potential, has multiple pick trade value. I think he's more Sullinger than Al, but that's just me avoiding the trap to over hype him.

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3/6/2015  5:50 PM
blkexec wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
nixluva wrote:I think OK4 is already better than Al Jeff. At this age he's way ahead of the curve. I think he's gonna develop even more. Wait till OK4 get in a pro level Conditioning and training program to tighten up his game.

Russell is a mix of Curry and Kidd. He rebounds like Kidd and has the offense of Curry.

Towns makes me think of a smaller Bynum. The way he moves is very similar to me.

Portia reminds me of Bosh. Skilled and very much a finesse big.

If Okafor is already better than Al Jefferson then we are getting a kid that is going to be 20/10/2 blk.... do you see that in this kid? If the Knicks had al Jeff with melo we'd be really good.

OK4 is solid, but I can't say he's better than Al Jefferson or any starting caliber NBA forward. OK4 could be the next sullinger, nobody knows. Once you become an instant millionaire, you will instantly change. How will the money and fame affect OK4? Nobody knows. How will the practice and everyday grind affect OK4? What about the energy he now has to spend on defense, when playing man to man and guarding the elite players like Tim Duncan? Especially for a guy that has a weakness on defense. I know when you exert too much energy on defense, your offense will take a major hit. So nobody knows about any of these college prospects. His ceiling is Al Jefferson....I'm willing to put money on that. But it could also be higher or lower, depending on his work ethic and willingness to improve. Jordan and Kobe (for example) wanted to be the best. Others just want that paycheck to buy momma a house....Then they lose that motivation, and their career falls off the map.

But NBA comparisons are always fun.....As long as you keep it real. Between Sullinger and Jefferson is a good potential window for OK4. I would still trade him for anybody that thinks he's better than Al right now.....Because if they believe that, then picking OK4 and trading him might be a better move for the entire team. Anybody with a young player on Al Jefferson's level with Tim Duncan's potential, has multiple pick trade value. I think he's more Sullinger than Al, but that's just me avoiding the trap to over hype him.


By all accounts OK4 is a good and humble kid.

Slaughter said: “He can handle New York.”
Okafor said his personable character comes partly from tragedy, losing his mother, Dacresha Lanett Benton, at the age of 9 from a severe case of bronchitis. It taught him how precious life can be, to cherish everyone around him. He used basketball as a coping mechanism at a young age — his therapy, he said — increasing the time he spent honing his craft to deal with his grief. It cleared his mind. He still thinks of her often, particularly when he is on the court. A photo of her is the screensaver on his phone.

“I know without a doubt that made me a lot more mature that I would’ve been,” Okafor said. “People always credit me with having an old soul. That all goes to losing my mom at an early age, always appreciating everybody around me. Tomorrow is never promised.

“There isn’t a day I don’t think about her. She’s watching over me.”
After her death, he moved in with his father, Chukwudi (who goes by Chucky), in Chicago. Asked about his son’s advanced offensive skill set, Chucky said they worked on everything — ball handling, shooting, posting up — so that Okafor would be a complete player. It was the same off the court. Chucky wanted his son to be a complete person, not just a basketball player. Academics were emphasized. His son attended Whitney Young because of its education prowess, not its basketball program.
“He never bought a bad grade home in his life,” Chucky recalled fondly. “ ‘C’ was the lowest.”

More than his nimble post moves or his rare combination of size and quickness, his character is what stands out to those close to him. Chucky was proud to say his son has the same friends now he had before he became a star. Okafor was the one who always reminded Slaughter of the team’s annual trip to the soup kitchen over the holidays. In September, Okafor asked Capel if he could attend his 2-year-old son’s birthday party and brought a remote-control car as a present.
“The dude is like a walking multi, multi-millionaire. He’s going to be one of the top picks, he’s going to be a franchise player. He can be an arrogant prick, just think it’s all about him, and he’s the total opposite,” Capel said. “He’s beloved by his teammates. He just wants to be one of the guys.
“Someone is hurting on the team, someone is going through a tough time, he’s the one there for them. Someone falls down in practice, he’s the first one top help them up. He gets as much satisfaction if other guys are doing well as he does [as he is].”

The Duncan comparisons are humbling, Okafor said, and so are the predictions of grandeur, his name atop virtually every mock draft. But Okafor is enjoying being a 19-year-old kid for now, immersing himself in the Duke community. He has the fifth-ranked Blue Devils near the top of the polls, considered one of few teams capable of topping top-ranked Kentucky.
At the moment, that’s all that matters. His lottery ticket of a future can wait. He’s not even sure he will declare for the draft after the year, as long of a shot as that seems.
“My main focus, my No. 1 focus for the year, is winning a national championship,” he said. “That’s what I want to bring to Duke University.”

I think people are really underestimating how good he is as a freshman.

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