I don't think Philly would give up an unprotected 1 for 2005 for Kurt.

It's better than that crappy Malik Rose deal, but this deal is no good either IMO unless we get a top 15 pick from Philly.

Unless we get a really nice offer, I'd hold onto Kurt until we can land another big man, be it at PF or C. Right now KT is probably the best C on our roster, and that's including Nazr.

when the season starts, Aaron McKie will be 32.

the only 32 year old the knicks should trade for or sign is Shaq.

McKie's best years are behind him.

so we get Philly's #1 pick next year- it could be a mid round pick- any where from 12-17. maybe the Sixers stink and we get the #1 overall pick- the chances of that happening are just too unlikely.

i'd make that trade BRIGGS...getting a potential lottery pick in '05 would be well worth it for me to give up KT...but do you think they would be interested in KT enough to give up McKie & a 1st round pick?

if Philly misses the playoffs, which is distinctly possible (you never know, an injury to AI or something else), that pick turns into a lottery pick...i think owning an extra #1 next season could be VITAL in this team getting an impact player...Isiah can package both to move up, or he can trade them for an already established player...we all saw the moves that were made at this year's draft...i'd like to be a player in next year's draft if possible.

Okay Crawfords young, good and has a lot of potential, but the fact of the matter is he's still a 37-38% shooter, has a selfish rep, and doesn't play much D. He's still a combo guy (though he's becoming more a of a two). There are lot of question marks with him and he's gonna have to be a bench player for Chicago. Considering all this I have a hard time believing Chicago matches any big money long term deals for him. He's not 6'11 so he's not gonna get Odom's deal. The 6 year 37.5 mil he can get with the MLE is a pretty big contract and he could get a little more. If I'm Chicago I try work a sign and trade with this guy, but I'm not gonna pay him a whole lot, let him sit on the bench and make him turn into someone who whines for playing time while he's hurting my cap. Knowing Skiles' hardass rep, and the fact that they clashed last year, this doesn't exactly seem like a great situation for him.

Of course with the Knicks he may not even start with Houston back, but you know he can get at least 25 minutes behind Allan and Steph, and would likely be a spot starter and future starter. The change of situation is also something he's probably looking for. I don't know if we're the one who'd get him, but I'm not sure that I see Chicago keeping him unless he gets lowballed in the FA market.

The answer is IF sweets had developed enough to take that spot. It happens on other teams!

I do think we will do a sign and trade with Detroit for RashWeed.

Posted by metra:

Briggs, who are we gonna get that fills in the PF? I love Sweets and his OR-ing but he cant fill that void. We have too many SF's and guards.. Trading a PF/C isnt gonna help. I would take this deal in an instant if theres a PF that we can get who can fill the void.

Again the deal is about being pro-active towards the future. If you believe that KT is the difference between the Knicks not winning the championship, then hold'em. I se it differently. I think the Knicks have a very good shot at either Dampier or Mihm-possibly Swift and Doleac at the lower case exception. This would allow Nazr or Sweetney to start 4. Is it possible we could pick up both Dampier and Doleac--it is possible and we will see very soon. I really believe Nazr is much more of a 4 than a 5--although he can move to 5.

Even if we walk away with just Doleac--KT IMHO is gone. The whole key is getting value while their is value to be had UNLESS you feel the player is a difference maker.

KT as a starter the last 4 years has produced an average of 36 wins.