If he is that good, why did he last into the 40s?

Posted by Rich:

If he is that good, why did he last into the 40s?

Ok, say it with me s-l-e-e-p-e-r.

Seriously though no one's saying he should have been a lottery pick or anything but Ariza? Ariza? As if we dont have enough forwards. Ha's 7-3, still growing, and has a perimeter shot close to mings. Oh yea and did i mention he is only a teenager. He's gotta develop, but if i had to choose between him and ariza, id take Ha hands down. Its just that simple.

[Edited by - subzero0 on 06/24/2004 23:23:34]

Posted by subzero0:

Posted by Rich:

If he is that good, why did he last into the 40s?

Ok, say it with me s-l-e-e-p-e-r.

Seriously though no one's saying he should have been a lottery pick or anything but Ariza? Ariza? As if we dont have enough forwards. Ha's 7-3, still growing, handle's the ball better than ming, and has a perimeter shot close to mings. Oh yea and did i mention he is only a teenager. He's gotta develop, but if i had to choose between him and ariza, id take Ha hands down. Its just that simple.

I still trust Isiah's ability to assess talent.

Forget Ha..I want Mo Ke. He won't be allowed to come over for like 3 years but he's a better sleeper than Ha. Ha can't play 5 on 5 basketball. Mo Ke can.

Some of you guys are really harsh. Pipe down a little.

I think Rich asked a very good question. All of these huge big men who end up in the 40s are there for a reason, just like Vranes, last year. Everyone knows all teams need a big center who is really good. If he dropped to that low, though, maybe it's because teams didn't think he had any NBA potential. They don't pass up on these guys for no reason. I am not terribly upset by who we picked, even though I don't know much about him. I wouldn't have minded Paulding though. What happened w/ him, by the way?

lol, geeze louise, and he was projected to go late 20s, early 30s, right? I kinda liked him when he was on Missouri too. I was really only a Missouri fan, though, when Kareem Rush was on the team.

my personal take, as an Asian person...i don't care to hear anything that the Knicks didn't pick Ha because he is Asian...does every thread need to degrade into a discussion of race? let's try & stick to the player's talent & potential aspects & leave the race references out of it, shall we?

on the topic of Ariza, i don't understand this pick at all to tell you the truth...i agree w/subzero0 in that i don't see how the Knicks could have passed up on a bigman prospect like Ha, or even Herve Lamizana at the pick when they were both available...why do we need another swingman when we already have TT, Penny, Shandon & most likely DerMarr on the roster already? will this kid even make the roster this season? i highly doubt it, unless he's just absolutely so good that Isiah had him high on his depth chart & wanted him all along...i would have myself preferred a bigman prospect at that spot...but i'm hoping Isiah knows what he's doing here...maybe he has a trade in the works that would create an opening on the bench for this kid to have a role? i'll have to try & be optimistic here.

i am definitely going to give Isiah the benefit of the doubt until i see how this team has progressed by this time next year...if this kid has the goods as advertised, then i hope Isiah has a trade up his sleeve to get him some minutes next season...i'd hate to see another Lavor Postell situation developing.

Posted by franco12:

When you start thinking 'why did we take this guy when we have a bunch of other players the same size, etc', you remind me of Ed Tapscott when he passed on Ron Artest and picked Fredric Weiss.

good analogy...not.

1st of all, Ron Artest was highly touted & was widely regarded as the most talented player available when the Knicks' turn to pick that year...unlike this pick, where you yourself are admitting to not even knowing much about this kid Ariza to begin with...so spare me the Ed Tapscott comparisons, because they don't apply here.

[Edited by - TMS on 06/25/2004 10:30:40]