It is so funny how people were saying Zeke traded away our future in the marbury deal

Yeah, and no one talks about the fact that Minnesota has forfeited several first round picks, now has one star, and a couple of aging key players, and no cap flexibility. Maybe they sacraficed their future more than we did!

Posted by Chico:

We're obviously not going to take telfair with the 12th pick.
1) he's projected way below 12

2) we need swingmen and athletic bigmen, not another point guard...we have 3 and charlie ward is ours for the taking if we want him

3) most importantly: he and stephon hate each other. They don't even speak.

As to the original post, The first trade is awesome. the second trade (flip and frank included) is just good. i'd still do both.

Really? They hate each other?

If Portland realy wants Telfair and might take him at #13, I like the idea of taking him at 12 and then you have them by the b$lls to make a trade.