Bonn1997 wrote:
You can see the highlights here. A lot of the shots are nice looking but way too many are fools gold mid range jumpers. For his career, he makes 42.5% of his mid range shots. You don't want him taking those. The 3s and drives were good, though.

That's the common thought process of every casual basketball fan nowadays. Real basketball is played mid range. That's where the action is. Without Bargnani causing havoc there is no outside game.

GustavBahler wrote:Didn't watch the game but as good a game as Bargs may have had, the injuries alone are enough for me not to want any contract longer than 2 years. We still dont really know if Melo and Bargs will work well together.

I was EXTREMELY happy with the BABY KNICKS last night. I thought they all stepped up and played much better. I saw better D, overall effort, teamwork and a lack of fear. This is what we need to keep seeing from these kids. The extra floor time has helped them to gain confidence. I don't know if the can win every night but if they can play with this kind of effort most nights that would be great.

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
You can see the highlights here. A lot of the shots are nice looking but way too many are fools gold mid range jumpers. For his career, he makes 42.5% of his mid range shots. You don't want him taking those. The 3s and drives were good, though.

That's the common thought process of every casual basketball fan nowadays. Real basketball is played mid range. That's where the action is. Without Bargnani causing havoc there is no outside game.

huh? Do you think I made up the 42.5% figure? That's his actual career percentage

Bargnani was the main player on the Raptors playing in an undisciplined system. Hes a 7 footer who hits 83% of his FT. Hes got a keen quick mid range jumpshot perfect for the triangle. With a new frontcourt filled with depth and talent bargs can be just one of a tough squad of players.

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
You can see the highlights here. A lot of the shots are nice looking but way too many are fools gold mid range jumpers. For his career, he makes 42.5% of his mid range shots. You don't want him taking those. The 3s and drives were good, though.

That's the common thought process of every casual basketball fan nowadays. Real basketball is played mid range. That's where the action is. Without Bargnani causing havoc there is no outside game.

huh? Do you think I made up the 42.5% figure? That's his actual career percentage

I'm not sure what you're trying to say but from 2p range Bargs is a career 47% shooter. Maybe if you are looking at a very specific area you could make it seem like he's not effective inside the 3pt line, but he actually is very effective.

Bargs is also one of the most efficient PnP players.

During the 2011-12 NBA season, as you can see from the chart above, Andrea Bargnani led the league in points per possession based on a minimum of 75 Pick and Pop possessions. Now keep in mind these stats are based soley on the Pick and Pop play type via Synergy Sports Technology extensive database. Take a look at the long list of All-Stars that fall behind Bargnani in this extremely important play type run multiple times during the course of an NBA game and season. Tim Duncan, Kevin Love, Kevin Garnett, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol even former Knick David Lee, all trail Bargnani in points per possession which in essence is one of the more notable and realistic metrics used to gauge the efficiency of a player’s skill set.

Ultimately, the points-per-possession metric is a tremendous indicator of how a player maximizes an offensive possession. In Bargnani’s case, although the sample size during 2011-12 was relatively small in terms of games played, he not only was the most efficient player in Pick and Pop play types, but he scored the most points per game and got to the free throw line the highest percentage out of all players in the league.

Understanding the metrics listed above help explain why Bargnani is such a sound option running Pick and Pop action. Now whether he can stay off the injured list for an extended period of time is a whole other story entirely. Back to the numbers.

As you’ll notice Bargnani scored the highest PPP in the league at 1.022 in 2011-12. Points per possession is calculated by dividing a player’s total points by their total possessions. In this case, each player’s PPP listed is based solely on Pick and Pop play types. Bargnani achieves such a high rating because he attempts more three-pointers than most of the players listed while also showcasing an uncanny ability to entice defenders into fouling him while shooting off Pick and Pop action.

In fact, Bargnani led the league in FT% which is a metric designed to track how often a player is awarded free throws running a particular play type. Bargnani was fouled in the act of shooting resulting in free throws 12.9% of the time running Pick and Pop play types during the 2011-12 season good for the number one ranking in the entire league. Capitalizing on those opportunities, Bargnani shot a career-high 87.3% from the charity stripe.

During the 2011-12 season, Bargnani averaged 19.5 points, 5.5 rebounds while shooting 87.3% from the free throw line on 5.6 attempts per game. The stretch big man knocked down just 43.2% from the field and 29.6% from three suiting up in a total of just 31 games.

http://www.hardwoodcanvas.com/2013/07/07/advanced-analytics-bargnanis-pick-and-pop-game/#.Udqr8T5ARhN

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
You can see the highlights here. A lot of the shots are nice looking but way too many are fools gold mid range jumpers. For his career, he makes 42.5% of his mid range shots. You don't want him taking those. The 3s and drives were good, though.

That's the common thought process of every casual basketball fan nowadays. Real basketball is played mid range. That's where the action is. Without Bargnani causing havoc there is no outside game.

huh? Do you think I made up the 42.5% figure? That's his actual career percentage

I'm not sure what you're trying to say but from 2p range Bargs is a career 47% shooter. Maybe if you are looking at a very specific area you could make it seem like he's not effective inside the 3pt line, but he actually is very effective.

Bargs is also one of the most efficient PnP players.

During the 2011-12 NBA season, as you can see from the chart above, Andrea Bargnani led the league in points per possession based on a minimum of 75 Pick and Pop possessions. Now keep in mind these stats are based soley on the Pick and Pop play type via Synergy Sports Technology extensive database. Take a look at the long list of All-Stars that fall behind Bargnani in this extremely important play type run multiple times during the course of an NBA game and season. Tim Duncan, Kevin Love, Kevin Garnett, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol even former Knick David Lee, all trail Bargnani in points per possession which in essence is one of the more notable and realistic metrics used to gauge the efficiency of a player’s skill set.

Ultimately, the points-per-possession metric is a tremendous indicator of how a player maximizes an offensive possession. In Bargnani’s case, although the sample size during 2011-12 was relatively small in terms of games played, he not only was the most efficient player in Pick and Pop play types, but he scored the most points per game and got to the free throw line the highest percentage out of all players in the league.

Understanding the metrics listed above help explain why Bargnani is such a sound option running Pick and Pop action. Now whether he can stay off the injured list for an extended period of time is a whole other story entirely. Back to the numbers.

As you’ll notice Bargnani scored the highest PPP in the league at 1.022 in 2011-12. Points per possession is calculated by dividing a player’s total points by their total possessions. In this case, each player’s PPP listed is based solely on Pick and Pop play types. Bargnani achieves such a high rating because he attempts more three-pointers than most of the players listed while also showcasing an uncanny ability to entice defenders into fouling him while shooting off Pick and Pop action.

In fact, Bargnani led the league in FT% which is a metric designed to track how often a player is awarded free throws running a particular play type. Bargnani was fouled in the act of shooting resulting in free throws 12.9% of the time running Pick and Pop play types during the 2011-12 season good for the number one ranking in the entire league. Capitalizing on those opportunities, Bargnani shot a career-high 87.3% from the charity stripe.

During the 2011-12 season, Bargnani averaged 19.5 points, 5.5 rebounds while shooting 87.3% from the free throw line on 5.6 attempts per game. The stretch big man knocked down just 43.2% from the field and 29.6% from three suiting up in a total of just 31 games.

http://www.hardwoodcanvas.com/2013/07/07/advanced-analytics-bargnanis-pick-and-pop-game/#.Udqr8T5ARhN

We're specifically talking about mid-range 2 point shots, not all 2 point shots. I already said he's good at 3s and shots near the basket.

Bonn there is no substitute for watching the games. bargnani is a great mid range shooter--when he shoots it around 12 feet you feel like ti will go in. His WHOLE career has been hampered with too much being out on his back and his undisciplined play on bad teams led by his game starting from beyond the 3 pt line. He has life long poor habits. If he STAYS within 14 feet--he can be really good. VERY few 7 footers shoot 85% from the FT line in volume.