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2/22/2015  12:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2015  12:42 PM
If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team
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BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.
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BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

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2/22/2015  12:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?
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BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

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I do not think it is worth it, as Calderon still could contribute, especially with his FT% and ability to spread the floor for the 3pt line, he should be the 2nd facilitator/ball handler, handle the ball/control tempo, and he does provided leadership

This season is a bad season as we lacked the talent needed to compete and run a system that we do not have the pieces to execute
At the very least, only stretch him if we have a plan in place to sign players and need that extra money in order to do so, but to just stretch him and hope to land talent, I think it is a a poor decision
Lets not forget, maybe during the final year of his contract or next deadline, we could possiblity trade him though it would cost us an asset to do so
But he started of the season hurt and isn't playing with much talent around him, if we had a legit POST presence and another ball handler, his job would be much easier and he will get those open looks
His ability to play OFF the ball is exactly what we need, catch and shoot

So who know's how he might perform if we actually had talent around him
Lets not forget if we stretch him, he would hinder our salary for 5years instead of the 3 years he is owed and we also must fill a roster spot the cap hold that roster spot holds
It just IS NOT WORTH IT, keep him, and hope he turns it around

And if Dragic or some combination of talent is willing to take less and form a contending team, then reconsider it if we cannot trade him
As his contract gets less, he becomes more tradeable
IF we have learned anything from the trades of Tyson Chandler, JR Smith, and Iman Shumpert, it is that they are all players that are much better and had talent
They did not play well on the Knicks and it is because we lack the talent/leadership to properly utilize these guys, and it could likely be the same for Calderon
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2/22/2015  1:18 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017
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2/22/2015  1:20 PM
Ron it's pretty simple
After this season we can waive and spread his 7.5mm over 3 years-- why don't u guys take the two minutes it would take to look that up?

Further jose Calderon will NOT be part of the knicks going 4ward. He cannot compete at the level a modern day pg needs to defensively in the nba Why would the knicks commit another year to him it makes no sense zero at any level. I'd rather have that 5mm in cap to opportunisticlywait on a replacement. If he starts one game for us next year then we do have schmucks still running the knicks

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2/22/2015  1:25 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.

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2/22/2015  1:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2015  1:27 PM
no problem. It happens.
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2/22/2015  3:54 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.


That's not really a net gain for the franchise. We gain 9 mil in cap room over the next 2 years and then lose 9 mil in cap room over the subsequent 3 years.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.


That's not really a net gain for the franchise. We gain 9 mil in cap room over the next 2 years and then lose 9 mil in cap room over the subsequent 3 years.

But the cap might be going up substantially. A lesser of two evils gamble perhaps.

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2/22/2015  4:00 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.


That's not really a net gain for the franchise. We gain 9 mil in cap room over the next 2 years and then lose 9 mil in cap room over the subsequent 3 years.

But the cap might be going up substantially. A lesser of two evils gamble perhaps.


but if it does, it goes up for all teams and we still have 9 mil less than other teams do during those 3 years.
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At this point we should just hold on to him and see what the team looks like next year. He's fine as a bench player if we can get a better player to start in the backcourt. Until then he's gonna play. We need to concentrate on improving the overall talent on this roster. Once we know who we're drafting then it will inform who we'll go after in Free Agency. Right now it's harder to really settle on the exact FA's we should target 1st. We know the names but it will make the picture much clearer when we know where we'll be drafting.
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2/22/2015  4:15 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.


That's not really a net gain for the franchise. We gain 9 mil in cap room over the next 2 years and then lose 9 mil in cap room over the subsequent 3 years.

But the cap might be going up substantially. A lesser of two evils gamble perhaps.


but if it does, it goes up for all teams and we still have 9 mil less than other teams do during those 3 years.

I realize that. The gamble is if we could get something extra that would make a difference those first two years. Melo will be 33 going on 34 the 3rd year I think.

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2/22/2015  4:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2015  5:19 PM
nixluva wrote:At this point we should just hold on to him and see what the team looks like next year. He's fine as a bench player if we can get a better player to start in the backcourt. Until then he's gonna play. We need to concentrate on improving the overall talent on this roster. Once we know who we're drafting then it will inform who we'll go after in Free Agency. Right now it's harder to really settle on the exact FA's we should target 1st. We know the names but it will make the picture much clearer when we know where we'll be drafting.

Up to me, he shouldn't and wouldn't be playing. Makes no sense. We just got Alexey Shved, an intriguing 6'6" ball-handling guard (I wanna give Phil credit there--along with the 2 2nd rounders, that's a NICE trade for Prigioni), and there's Bryce Cotton absolutely blowing up the DL right now just waiting for a callup. Those would be my two PGs for the rest of the year. Galloway's not a PG (not even that good player imho--I don't need to see much more of him) and we don't need to see any more of Shane Larkin--I think it's clear he's gone after the year. What benefit do we gain from playing Calderon even 15 mins a game? Answer: nothing! Can't waive Calderon--he's making too much money. Can't trade him for the same reason. Forgone conclusion he'll be here next year. Let's see if we can come up with 1 or 2 guys where we can push him right to the bench and lend a little more hope toward the future...Let's waive someone and take a good look at Bryce Cotton. You wanna tell me something like 'how do you know Phil didn't already inquire about Cotton and he turned us down' -- I'm not buying that Nix, all due respect. Cotton would love a call from Phil Jackson and the Knicks. And I'm not buying the "well, I guess they like different players than you do' sentiment either. It's not about who I like, you like, Phil likes -- go with the PROOF. I'm all about empirical evidence. Cotton's killing it right now and we need PG help moving forward...See the potential value in getting him and make it happen. Pull the trigger. If Cotton doesn't work out, so what? You waive bye-bye to the guy after 10-days. If he did work out however -- we could be looking at a better version of Patty Mills here. I'd take the chance. Along with evaluating Shved, acquiring Cotton would give me 2 reasons to keep watching.

A quick thing with Galloway -- he needs a primary ball-handler out there with him, which is one reason why Calderon's still seeing floor time esp. at the start. Not a terrible ball-handler per se but not PG quality. I don't see a PG when I look at Galloway...Cotton (along with Shved, once we dust him off and get him out there for some meaningful mins) would eliminate the need to play Calderon -- both those guys can more than handle all the ball-handling duties. I don't know what to say--Bryce Cotton is flat out a better player than Langston Galloway. Not sure why Phil and the Knicks don't see that and don't seize the opportunity to grab him while he's still available. You wanna keep Galloway around for the time being, fine. He's signed up 'til the end of the year anyway, with a partial guarantee for next year I believe. But find a way to add Cotton.
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BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

Wouldn't any spreader for Calderon be re-calculated back to the 1st year of your so called spread contract using the Over-35 Rule?

You know I gonna spin wit it
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BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.

Thats exactly my point. Phil knew what he was getting with Calderon. Its a chess move where he had starter potential at best....backup at worse.....expiring trade bait.....connections with his spanish brothers......and a high IQ pg that should pickup the triangle and be an improvement over Felton. At this point why cut him now? Dont we have time for that? Did he learn from simply cutting players vs getting something in return instead? We have so many holes to fill and hes not the highest priority to fix. This team is so bad....if we had Dragic....fans would boo him too once they see his defense is similar to Calderon. This team needs a total makeover of leaders. Right now we have a team of bench players and d leaguers.

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blkexec wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.

Thats exactly my point. Phil knew what he was getting with Calderon. Its a chess move where he had starter potential at best....backup at worse.....expiring trade bait.....connections with his spanish brothers......and a high IQ pg that should pickup the triangle and be an improvement over Felton. At this point why cut him now? Dont we have time for that? Did he learn from simply cutting players vs getting something in return instead? We have so many holes to fill and hes not the highest priority to fix. This team is so bad....if we had Dragic....fans would boo him too once they see his defense is similar to Calderon. This team needs a total makeover of leaders. Right now we have a team of bench players and d leaguers.

--------->Phil knew what he was getting with Calderon.

I will say at this point that statement is highly questionable. IF Calderon is on this team next year than I will know where these guys stand in management. If they want to say it was an asset trade we wanted to get some young players we targeted--I can live with that. If the goal was to put Jose C as the starter of an NBA basketball team trying to play good defense--than I will say its just as bad as we have seen from isiaih Thomas Glenn grunwald Scott Layden etc...

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2/22/2015  7:51 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.

Thats exactly my point. Phil knew what he was getting with Calderon. Its a chess move where he had starter potential at best....backup at worse.....expiring trade bait.....connections with his spanish brothers......and a high IQ pg that should pickup the triangle and be an improvement over Felton. At this point why cut him now? Dont we have time for that? Did he learn from simply cutting players vs getting something in return instead? We have so many holes to fill and hes not the highest priority to fix. This team is so bad....if we had Dragic....fans would boo him too once they see his defense is similar to Calderon. This team needs a total makeover of leaders. Right now we have a team of bench players and d leaguers.


Dragic's defense isn't anywhere near as bad as calderon's. i agree we need a total makeover though
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