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misterearl
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2/21/2015  9:02 AM
Despite the capacity crowds and the optimism of nixluva, the Answer Man reports a sobering fact of professional sports. There is no guarantee that the damage inflicted on our beloved basketball team can be corrected by all the Kings horses, Kings men and Uncle Phil.

Ten wins.

Think about that a moment. Unlike the Spurs, who had David Robinson and a magic draft pick, we have an injured, ego-centric shooter and not much else. There are moments the rose-tinted shades are raised and the glare from Golden State, San Antonio, Washington, Cleveland and even Atlanta... is blinding. Philadelphia and Boston will have a battalion of yoots to deploy.

We hang our hopes on Langston Galloway.

Most troubling, however, is the corporate mentality that relies on cash over creativity. The mission statement is callous and cold. We have no heart and soul. When the owner insults a loyal, yet frustrated, fan what more needs to be said?

It will require a decade of good karma, rolling sevens on a crapshoot of draft picks and the patience of as much time as it took to make the mess. Are you prepared for that?

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misterearl
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2/21/2015  9:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2015  9:05 AM
A little help please (Franchise) sheesh
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2/21/2015  9:06 AM
i think dolan is an excellent good-karma ruiner. i think of landry fields and jeremy lin as karmic rewards for the suffering knick fans have endured. dolan found a way to get them removed from the franchise.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/21/2015  9:09 AM
I'd like to see karl towns give me a 22-15--4-5 game today that's what I am waiting 4

Who cares about dolan no one likes him and his basketball decisions are worse than a blindfolded monkey shooting darts at a board

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2/21/2015  9:11 AM
If by some miracle Dolan sold the team, none of the harm he's done goes beyond 4 years from now.
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2/21/2015  9:14 AM
The only reason the Garden is still full is because those fans already got suckered into paying s steep price for those tickets. I completely agree with you Earl. How do you give $124mil to an injured player? Guess we didn't learn anything after 15yrs of albatross contracts like H20, Mcdyess, Marbury, Amare & Melo
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2/21/2015  9:16 AM
Sometimes u need to take a step back in order to move forward. This is what I wanted the Knicks to do in 2011-12. Just let the 1st yr play out and see out it goes. They dug themselves a massive trench not letting that season play out. We needed to purge following that yr and we had the amnesty if Amare didn't recover. We can't have a repeat of that. This is a appropriate and prudent decision. It's not really up for debate.
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2/21/2015  9:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2015  10:00 PM
(Muchas gracias moderators)

BRIGGS - unfortunately, we must care about Dolan because his fingerprints are on every decision. His thumb print overrides every opinion, outlook and optimistic view. We may choose not to look at him as integral to the franchise but he IS the franchise.

The New York Knicks, a franchise with a proud history as defining team basketball and whose fans ORIGINATED the chant of "defense" for every sports franchise to follow, is a subject of ridicule.
It has been to subject of ridicule for years. We who are loyal supporters may choose to only see our side if the court...

(Meanwhile we fans have been reduced to coveting other players as our major source of entertainment)

Here is the deal... plain and simple...

Leapfrogging the entire league will not be easy.

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2/21/2015  9:19 AM
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Sometimes u need to take a step back in order to move forward. This is what I wanted the Knicks to do in 2011-12. Just let the 1st yr play out and see out it goes. They dug themselves a massive trench not letting that season play out. We needed to purge following that yr and we had the amnesty if Amare didn't recover. We can't have a repeat of that. This is a appropriate and prudent decision. It's not really up for debate.

Right, but Dolan's steps back usually aren't followed by steps forward
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2/21/2015  9:20 AM
Excellent post earl. Hopefully the bigtime optimists understand the reason why we are so hesitant to jump on the bandwagon. We ALL love the knicks and want them to win so damn badly but we have constantly gotten our hopes up and end up being disappointed. Its no secret dolan is most likely the worst owner in sports and until he is gone we may never enjoy getting close to a title
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2/21/2015  9:21 AM
Has Dolan really ruined anything he needs a winner as badly as we do for him it's money in the pockets for us it a good nights sleep. Instead of blaming Dolan lets see what he has tried to do to win. He brought in Isiah which at the time people liked, then he brought, Larry Brown which at the time people liked, he brought in Amare which at the time looked like a great move. He brought in Melo which most liked, so you have an owner trying to do his best but everything seems to back fire on him. His last move was to bring Phil Jackson which most people like to top it off he is out of the picture and gave the keys to Phil which everyone seems to like. I always said you want an owner like Dolan who spends money, I just think the people around him haven't managed his deep pockets to well.

Phil gets it you can see the plan taking place top pick to go with cap space, the Knicks will be relevant very quickly. Then we can thank Dolan for bringing in Phil Jackson. This is a very tough market to play in the media is harsh here and they look for any angle to take shots at the Knicks. You know and I know that the media here plays a huge role and sometime they scare good players away. To me the biggest culprit is the media they are the toughest team in town they damage the Knicks much harder than anyone.

As fans we need to realize also that this year is a major step in the right direction for this franchise and we need to let what is happening happen for the good. The Media wants to stir the fan base, with their useless stories. Fans need to be wise to it.
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2/21/2015  9:23 AM
misterearl wrote:(Muchas gracias moderators)

BRIGGS - unfortunately, we must care about Dolan because his fingerprints are on every decision. His thumb print override every opinion, outlook and optimistic view. We may choose not to look at him as integral to the franchise but he IS the franchise.

The New York Knicks, a franchise with a proud history as defining team basketball and whose fans ORIGINATED the chant of "defense" for every sports franchise to follow, is a subject of ridicule. It has been to subject of ridicule for years. We who are loyal supporters may choose to only see our side if the court...

Here is the deal... plain and simple...

Leapfrogging the entire league will not be easy.

Misterearl unless bill gates gets an iffinty for msg stock were stuck with the fat midgete

RIP Crushalot😞
misterearl
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2/21/2015  9:23 AM
StarksEwing - did you say a title? (Thank you for the kind words)

If we can climb back to the nirvana of winning 35 games in a season it would be cause for a parade down Broadway.

No team is standing pat. Everyone works to get better. We are dead last. Think about that.

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2/21/2015  9:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2015  9:29 AM
misterearl wrote:StarksEwing - did you say a title? (Thank you for the kind words)

If we can climb back to the nirvana of winning 35 games in a season it would be cause for a parade down Broadway.

No team is standing pat. Everyone works to get better. We are dead last. Think about that.

i didnt mean a title anytime soon. I just meant we would be better off without dolan. I agree with your last statement. Going from 10 wins to the playoffs would be extremely difficult. Im excited we have a lottery pick and cap room but that doesnt guarantee anything
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2/21/2015  9:27 AM
gunsnewing wrote:The only reason the Garden is still full is because those fans already got suckered into paying s steep price for those tickets. I completely agree with you Earl. How do you give $124mil to an injured player? Guess we didn't learn anything after 15yrs of albatross contracts like H20, Mcdyess, Marbury, Amare & Melo

I was secretly hoping melo would go to the bulls...

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2/21/2015  9:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2015  9:28 AM
VMart - nice list. You left off hall of famer Lenny Wilkens and a few others. You have only illustrated a point that is rarely mentioned. Dolan brought in these heralded leaders, only to have them leave abruptly.

After scouting him and bringing him in under tight security, you think Donnie Walsh wanted to give up Mozgov to Denver?

Or did Walsh simply say "I've had enough" packed his bags and went back to Indiana as a result of Dolan scribbling on his artwork?

Phil Jackson will leave New York before his contract is up. You can take that to the bank.

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2/21/2015  9:28 AM
Vmart wrote:Has Dolan really ruined anything he needs a winner as badly as we do for him it's money in the pockets for us it a good nights sleep. Instead of blaming Dolan lets see what he has tried to do to win. He brought in Isiah which at the time people liked, then he brought, Larry Brown which at the time people liked, he brought in Amare which at the time looked like a great move. He brought in Melo which most liked, so you have an owner trying to do his best but everything seems to back fire on him. His last move was to bring Phil Jackson which most people like to top it off he is out of the picture and gave the keys to Phil which everyone seems to like. I always said you want an owner like Dolan who spends money, I just think the people around him haven't managed his deep pockets to well.

Phil gets it you can see the plan taking place top pick to go with cap space, the Knicks will be relevant very quickly. Then we can thank Dolan for bringing in Phil Jackson. This is a very tough market to play in the media is harsh here and they look for any angle to take shots at the Knicks. You know and I know that the media here plays a huge role and sometime they scare good players away. To me the biggest culprit is the media they are the toughest team in town they damage the Knicks much harder than anyone.

As fans we need to realize also that this year is a major step in the right direction for this franchise and we need to let what is happening happen for the good. The Media wants to stir the fan base, with their useless stories. Fans need to be wise to it.

Vmart like dolan stepping into thecarmelo trade and giving denver carte blanche over all of our assets? How about saying no to giving toronto an unrestricted pick for bargs? At the end of the day yhe owner needs to have a say right? But dolans say has been brutal for the knicks on a side note why doesn't dolan give tix holders back someloot.

RIP Crushalot😞
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2/21/2015  9:32 AM
Why is this being called an excellent post by some of you?

It's excellent to say we're doomed to be horrible for another decade?

This is sports not the 9/11... this is not the sports equivalent to building the freedom towers. This is not the earthquakes in haiti. It's sports.

We draft well, Melo comes back ready to go, we sign some legit nba players and mother****er we are back just like that. Stop swimming in misery you negative Nancy's. You can't bring positivity through negativity

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2/21/2015  9:34 AM
EnySpree - ten wins.

Here endeth the lesson.

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2/21/2015  9:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2015  9:37 AM
It's an excellent post because it is brutally honest. Sometimes the truth hurts and there's nothing we can do about it
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