fishmike wrote:what are you giving GS to get Lee and 2 picks back? This has some pie in the sky to it...

Monroe would be a great piece to have moving forward, even if it cost 4/$60

Im taking 15mm in cap space! That is a HUGE price no one else will pay that.

Keep our cap space Y_Y for moves like this UNTIl the time is right to use it. Draft well be opportunistic and stay away from signing people to long term 16mm+ contracts UNTIL it makes sense.

crzymdups wrote:They're talking about buying out David Lee this year in GSW.

I would offer a second round pick.

Even if they buy out Lee--he stays on their cap. As a repeat tax offender it would cost them 2.5$ per dollar over. So essentially it would cost them 42.5mm to buy out Lee. If we offer to absorb him using our cap space--its got a cost to it--as in 2 1st and a 2nd.

DLee's a few seasons removed from being an All-Star, you think he's now coming here for rundown, old Grandpa KG money?

Just say no to No D Lee.

jrodmc wrote:How about staying away from overpaid commodities that don't play defense and post truly empty numbers? [Melo hater bait], here gunnny gunny gunny, here Bonnie Bonnie Bonnie...]

DLee's a few seasons removed from being an All-Star, you think he's now coming here for rundown, old Grandpa KG money?

Just say no to No D Lee.

No he'd be coming for a combination of 3 draft picks 2 first and 1 second and we'd get 1 good year out of him than he expires. You see Jim Dolan does everything the opposite--he trades for players using draft picks who never pan out. In this case you'd be the one grabbing the assets using your cap space while getting a 1 year rental. Guys like Lamarcus Aldridge and Mark Gasol are NOT coming here--its a pipe dream. So do we try and draft good young players and let them develop while putting competitive players around them that make sense? It keeps 2016 cap space at a premium when you do have a player worthy of the $$$. Lee would bring back a player who has been in a winning culture and would help our young players as a mentor for a year. And the assets we get from taking him enhance what we can do rebuilding this team.

Lets think Dolan giving away an unrestricted pick(s) for andrea Bargnani and 4 2's for ray Felton and Marcus Camby trading Jordan Lee and number 1's to grab Amare? Nope this is just the opposite.

crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:How about staying away from overpaid commodities that don't play defense and post truly empty numbers? [Melo hater bait], here gunnny gunny gunny, here Bonnie Bonnie Bonnie...]

DLee's a few seasons removed from being an All-Star, you think he's now coming here for rundown, old Grandpa KG money?

Just say no to No D Lee.

No he'd be coming for a combination of 3 draft picks 2 first and 1 second and we'd get 1 good year out of him than he expires. You see Jim Dolan does everything the opposite--he trades for players using draft picks who never pan out. In this case you'd be the one grabbing the assets using your cap space while getting a 1 year rental. Guys like Lamarcus Aldridge and Mark Gasol are NOT coming here--its a pipe dream. So do we try and draft good young players and let them develop while putting competitive players around them that make sense? It keeps 2016 cap space at a premium when you do have a player worthy of the $$$. Lee would bring back a player who has been in a winning culture and would help our young players as a mentor for a year. And the assets we get from taking him enhance what we can do rebuilding this team.

Lets think Dolan giving away an unrestricted pick(s) for andrea Bargnani and 4 2's for ray Felton and Marcus Camby trading Jordan Lee and number 1's to grab Amare? Nope this is just the opposite.

It's a really smart move, Briggs. Which is why we know the Knicks won't do it. Dolan will think this can all be fixed in one summer and expect Phil to magically make them contenders. I agree that this will take time and patience. This isn't a situation where they can sign even a guy like Marc Gasol or LMA. They need eight to ten legit players. Right now we may not even two guys like that.

For those fans looking for shortcuts--it's not happening. And for the idiot owner who likes to call out fans--you have fcked the team up for 15 years running. You're the guy who doesnt like the Knicks. You want a shortcut--we all know it and you're not getting it. NO player in this draft is Lebron or Shaq. Also the free agent pool just got cut in half yesterday--be at peace with rebuilding with a goal of sustaining a highly competitive team for 10 years. It took a LONg time to hit bottom and look back when w edrafted Patrick!! We still were terrible for years after--we are MILES behind other teams.

BigDaddyG wrote:I like me the trade, I just don't think we need to give up picks. If anything, I think GSW would give us a pick if we wait. This is similar to the situation the Lakers were in when Houston needed a bail out from Lin.

He's saying GSW would give the Knicks picks for saving them luxury tax and allowing them to re-sign Green.

smackeddog wrote:The problem with taking back contracts for picks is it works well when there's only one team in a position to do it (the Sixers) but as soon as there's two teams can use them to bid each other lower. If we asked for 2 picks, the Sixers could ask for one. If they asked for 1 pick, we could ask for 2 2nd rounders. It messes things up.

That is true and Philly has more cap space this year than last--they simply need to get to the threshold. They did just take on Mcgee for a pick in the 2015 draft. If I didnt get payment that was good for the Knicks--I would simply walk on by. My cost is a 2016 and a 2018 lottery protected #1 and a 2017 2nd rounder not a penny less