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2/20/2015  9:26 AM
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2/20/2015  9:41 AM
Drama queen doomsayers. Fuck these guys. No class.

Melo will be fine. These hacks are just drumming up an audience in a noisy City. They have no talent.

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2/20/2015  9:44 AM
Moonangie wrote:Drama queen doomsayers. Fuck these guys. No class.

Melo will be fine. These hacks are just drumming up an audience in a noisy City. They have no talent.


It's easy to just name call. What specifically did they say that you think is wrong?
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2/20/2015  10:30 AM
I don't want to hear knick haters screaming about everything that could possibly go wrong and how much a failure Phil is in year one.

The only truth I need is the fact we have a top pick and cap space. Nothing SAS can say that I want to hear.

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2/20/2015  10:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2015  10:45 AM
I watched the video and it's what I expected. Everything going wrong they wasted a television segment to doom and gloom. "Fix it!"

Again..... top pick, cap space....that's all we need to know.

As far as melo not being the same? He's 30.... that's going to happen anyway. SAS is garbage. Typical hater knick fan. I can't deal with people like that. Skip Bayless is a clown too....basically the whole espn. They go out their way to bash the Knicks. Does Minnesota get this much time for SAS to bash? Do the Lakers get this much attention? Disgusting.

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2/20/2015  10:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2015  10:46 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Drama queen doomsayers. Fuck these guys. No class.

Melo will be fine. These hacks are just drumming up an audience in a noisy City. They have no talent.


It's easy to just name call. What specifically did they say that you think is wrong?

Pretty much on point. They might be overstating the severity of the injury and the recovery timetable just a little bit (I like how all of a sudden it went to 6-8 months lol) but hell ya, there's cause for concern. Big-time. Something that was said to be close to what Cleanthony Early just had done now has ballooned into something that will require 4-6 months of recovery.

Also think SAS went overboard in typical fashion when he touched on Melo feeling "betrayed." Come on man--if that's true, Melo's gotta calm down. Bottom line: Phil gave you $124mm when I wouldn't have buddy -- I would've traded him for the best package and talked ad nauseam about it.. Now there's a process that has to take place in order to get better. Respect it and be patient. Phil hasn't even made it to his first draft yet. And one good thing about the Chandler trade -- I know the trade was suspect, taking on Calderon's contract and all (big mistake--I think Cuban would've gone to another configuration--Brandon Wright instead of Calderon possibly, if Phil would've stood his ground better. Cuban wanted Chandler back--I think Phil could've gotten a better deal), but to look at it fair -- flip side: with Chandler, you figure we would be a good handful of games better right now record-wise and have no shot at the top pick. So there's a decent trade off there that Phil inadvertently gave us...Not sure what Melo expected from Phil this early as far as turning this thing around yet.

Other than those 2 issues, these guys are on point here, esp. concerning Melo not shutting it down weeks ago. Melo can't be allowed to call the shots on his own health like that. There's way too much at stake here... And God forbid it did come from Dolan to keep playing--that idiot should finally be taken out back and shot.

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2/20/2015  10:47 AM
Yeah ... haters ... Melo will be just fine ... trust me on this ... its all part of phils plan.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/20/2015  10:56 AM
Here's the thing, SAS can scream and fans can complain, but having surgery was in fact MELO's decision. You can't make someone have a surgery. Phil could have just sit Melo but that is much different than saying he could order Melo to have surgery. This is a touchy subject due to the big contract, but a bit too much is being made of it. Yes there's a possibility that Melo could miss some or all of Training Camp, but that can't be known right now, so overreacting to that is just stupid. It's just easy to jump on Phil because the Knicks are losing and since he stripped the roster there's no specific players you can point to in Phil's defense. However, we all know that they're looking at the Draft and Free Agency to try and bring in new players.

These two idiots are talking about Melo playing on the knee and saying it could be a career changing injury but they actually don't know anything about Melo's knee. Only his doctors know. We won't truly know and neither will Melo until he can actually train on the knee and see how it responds. Right now there should be concern but no reason to panic about the situation. No one is saying you have to love the fact that our most expensive player has a knee problem but it's a bad case of Tendonitis. It's gonna be about Melo's ability to endure some pain when jumping. I doubt that it will completely go away even with the surgery. The idea of the surgery was to minimize the condition.

I've said this before and i've meant it. This can't be about one player. Everything that Phil does from now on is about the future of the team. The player we Draft, young players we develop and Free Agents we sign will be important parts of the future of the franchise. If Phil fails to improve the rest of the roster it won't matter how good Melo feels. It's really all about Phil's rebuilding of the franchise from D League, scouts, coaches, trainers to NBA roster.

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2/20/2015  10:59 AM
SAS should seriously think about doing stand up comedy. his skills might be more appreciated there.
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2/20/2015  11:02 AM
Finestrg wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Drama queen doomsayers. Fuck these guys. No class.

Melo will be fine. These hacks are just drumming up an audience in a noisy City. They have no talent.


It's easy to just name call. What specifically did they say that you think is wrong?

Pretty much on point. They might be overstating the severity of the injury and the recovery timetable just a little bit (I like how all of a sudden it went to 6-8 months lol) but hell ya, there's cause for concern. Big-time. Something that was said to be close to what Cleanthony Early just had done now has ballooned into something that will require 4-6 months of recovery.

Also think SAS went overboard in typical fashion when he touched on Melo feeling "betrayed." Come on man--if that's true, Melo's gotta calm down. Bottom line: Phil gave you $124mm when I wouldn't have buddy -- I would've traded him for the best package and talked ad nauseam about it.. Now there's a process that has to take place in order to get better. Respect it and be patient. Phil hasn't even made it to his first draft yet. And one good thing about the Chandler trade -- I know the trade was suspect, taking on Calderon's contract and all (big mistake--I think Cuban would've gone to another configuration--Brandon Wright instead of Calderon possibly, if Phil would've stood his ground better. Cuban wanted Chandler back--I think Phil could've gotten a better deal), but to look at it fair -- flip side: with Chandler, you figure we would be a good handful of games better right now record-wise and have no shot at the top pick. So there's a decent trade off there that Phil inadvertently gave us...Not sure what Melo expected from Phil this early as far as turning this thing around yet.

Other than those 2 issues, these guys are on point here, esp. concerning Melo not shutting it down weeks ago. Melo can't be allowed to call the shots on his own health like that. There's way too much at stake here... And God forbid it did come from Dolan to keep playing--that idiot should finally be taken out back and shot.


I agree for the most part. I disagree a bit with Bayless's take on the injury/surgery/recovery time and outcome. I have read everything I can find about this surgery and projected outcomes and in my opinion Bayless's take might be the worst case scenario I have heard.
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2/20/2015  11:02 AM
nixluva wrote:Here's the thing, SAS can scream and fans can complain, but having surgery was in fact MELO's decision. You can't make someone have a surgery. Phil could have just sit Melo but that is much different than saying he could order Melo to have surgery. This is a touchy subject due to the big contract, but a bit too much is being made of it. Yes there's a possibility that Melo could miss some or all of Training Camp, but that can't be known right now, so overreacting to that is just stupid. It's just easy to jump on Phil because the Knicks are losing and since he stripped the roster there's no specific players you can point to in Phil's defense. However, we all know that they're looking at the Draft and Free Agency to try and bring in new players.

These two idiots are talking about Melo playing on the knee and saying it could be a career changing injury but they actually don't know anything about Melo's knee. Only his doctors know. We won't truly know and neither will Melo until he can actually train on the knee and see how it responds. Right now there should be concern but no reason to panic about the situation. No one is saying you have to love the fact that our most expensive player has a knee problem but it's a bad case of Tendonitis. It's gonna be about Melo's ability to endure some pain when jumping. I doubt that it will completely go away even with the surgery. The idea of the surgery was to minimize the condition.

I've said this before and i've meant it. This can't be about one player. Everything that Phil does from now on is about the future of the team. The player we Draft, young players we develop and Free Agents we sign will be important parts of the future of the franchise. If Phil fails to improve the rest of the roster it won't matter how good Melo feels. It's really all about Phil's rebuilding of the franchise from D League, scouts, coaches, trainers to NBA roster.

As always I agree with you... can't wait till the playoffs start so we can watch good basketball, prep for the lottery, draft and the off season

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2/20/2015  4:53 PM
SAS is correct; Jackson should have stepped in way before and order Carmelo to go for a second opinion and go through with the surgery much sooner. Dolan might have something to do with this decision. As usual, he always does.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/20/2015  5:24 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:SAS is correct; Jackson should have stepped in way before and order Carmelo to go for a second opinion and go through with the surgery much sooner. Dolan might have something to do with this decision. As usual, he always does.

Phil said it was up to Melo to have the surgery and it is. You can't force a player to have surgery. Just like you can't force a player to play hurt. They can advise him not to play. Phil and Fisher could have **** him down too. They gave Melo respect to play when he felt like it just like Amare.

It's a non issue. Melo had the surgery and he'll be back next season. All the other tidbits is speculation and drama drawn up but the espn mafia.

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2/20/2015  8:03 PM
It's not up to Melo to play though. He had no business playing. This was odd to begin with.

What Skip and SAS said was on point 100%.

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2/20/2015  8:13 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:It's not up to Melo to play though. He had no business playing. This was odd to begin with.

What Skip and SAS said was on point 100%.

When you give a dude $125 million contract, you own him. A smart organization usually wants to protect its investment. Key word "smart."

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/20/2015  8:13 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:It's not up to Melo to play though. He had no business playing. This was odd to begin with.

What Skip and SAS said was on point 100%.

Dude had a bad case of Tendonitis. Players play with all kinds of physical issues. The docs allowed him to play. If it was a major danger to his career they wouldn't clear him to play.

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2/20/2015  8:18 PM
nixluva wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:It's not up to Melo to play though. He had no business playing. This was odd to begin with.

What Skip and SAS said was on point 100%.

Dude had a bad case of Tendonitis. Players play with all kinds of physical issues. The docs allowed him to play. If it was a major danger to his career they wouldn't clear him to play.

Are we talking about Knicks docs? If so, Carmelo is dumb for not seeking a second opinion.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/20/2015  8:44 PM
ouch the truth really hurts
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2/20/2015  8:49 PM
SAS is right about not telling Melo to shut it down but the other stuff towards the end is garbage
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