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Stein reporting Melo will be ruled out for the rest of the season today
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CrushAlot
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2/18/2015  11:46 AM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 3h3 hours ago
ESPN sources say that Knicks will officially rule Carmelo Anthony out for rest of the season later Wednesday

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2/18/2015  11:48 AM
Finally hallelujah
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2/18/2015  11:55 AM
Jackson stepped in
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/18/2015  11:57 AM
wow! And after all year we heard Melo will probably shut it down after the AS break.
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2/18/2015  12:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2015  12:47 PM
hope he takes fisher with him, oh wait, we might start winning and mess up our precious 1 draft pick
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2/18/2015  12:50 PM
this guy is such a phony. he makes marbury look like a selfless leader.
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2/18/2015  12:59 PM
Jeff Zillgitt ‏@JeffZillgitt · 3h3 hours ago
Early indications are Carmelo Anthony will undergo debridement on knee to remove scar tissue, calficiations, debris:

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2/18/2015  1:01 PM
WTF guys! He's doing the smart thing for BOTH the Knicks and himself. There's no point to risking further injury this season of "tanking". We need the lottery pick AND we need Melo back at 100% healed.

Get with the program, jump on board, and enjoy the first moment in nearly two decades that the Knicks have a leader with enough vision, juice and chutzpah to turn this effing team around for the longer-term.

Damn, NYers can be hard to please.

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2/18/2015  1:08 PM
Who didn't know that Melo was hanging on for the All Star game and would shut it down after? It's not like Phil had to put his foot down. This was the only logical conclusion. In the end things worked out well. Melo was able to play in the All Star game and now will shut it down. No harm. No foul. Now we move ahead with the rest of this plan B. I really don't care about the "What If's" in this case. Melo will get his needed surgery and be back in time for summer work and training camp. We can now legitimately tank and get the young guys more work. There's no downside to this outcome.
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2/18/2015  1:08 PM
Moonangie wrote:WTF guys! He's doing the smart thing for BOTH the Knicks and himself. There's no point to risking further injury this season of "tanking". We need the lottery pick AND we need Melo back at 100% healed.

Get with the program, jump on board, and enjoy the first moment in nearly two decades that the Knicks have a leader with enough vision, juice and chutzpah to turn this effing team around for the longer-term.

Damn, NYers can be hard to please.

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2/18/2015  1:24 PM
Some of you talk like Melo is taking our childrens teeth and making a necklace from them.
Or the very least taking your money.
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2/18/2015  2:20 PM
it's just so pathetic that he felt the all star game was so important. the right thing to do was the get it treated earlier. not limping along for his an all star game that only he felt was important to him.
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2/18/2015  2:33 PM
anrst wrote:it's just so pathetic that he felt the all star game was so important. the right thing to do was the get it treated earlier. not limping along for his an all star game that only he felt was important to him.

Yea I think this is the only thing that folks have beef with. The timing plays into the whole idea of Brand Melo over Brand Knickerbocker. Most die-hard fans don't give a crap about the All Star game, and don't like the idea our salary cap is jammed up to have Melo be a glorified host for a meaningless event. And the whole back and forth of "I don't know what I'm going to do" while telegraphing that this was exactly what he was going to do... it's kinda wack.

But whatever. I'm fine with him being shut down. Hope he can be ready to go mentally and physically 110% for training camp.

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2/18/2015  2:36 PM
anrst wrote:it's just so pathetic that he felt the all star game was so important. the right thing to do was the get it treated earlier. not limping along for his an all star game that only he felt was important to him.

The all-star game is how he recruited Kevin Durant and several other top players. They all saw his 6 for 20 performance and are dying to share the ball with him now.
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2/18/2015  2:40 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Jeff Zillgitt ‏@JeffZillgitt · 3h3 hours ago
Early indications are Carmelo Anthony will undergo debridement on knee to remove scar tissue, calficiations, debris:

Sounds like a "wear and tear over the years" situation, not one that can be tied to a specific incident. The issue now is whether or not this is a sign of a deterioration that will get progressively worse, or will this operation stop the process to some extent?

Did Anthony have to get a complete physical before resigning with the Knicks, by the way? Just wondering. Given the Amare lesson, I would think that he would have gotten a physical which would have shown any problems... yes??


I was against the resigning for the amount and terms Anthony got, but any fan of the team understands that its future, to a great degree, depends on Carmello's health and performance on the court, and hopefully this medical procedure will put him on the right track.

Like many, I believe that this operation should have taken place a long time ago, but now that its done I am tankful... very tankful.

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2/18/2015  2:53 PM
Hopefully he is not on a minutes restrictions the rest of his career. Or needs recovery days like Amare

Hopefully

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2/18/2015  3:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2015  3:24 PM
Let's try to put things in perspective. For one thing Amar'e actually had significant deterioration of his Cartilage such that he required Micro Fracture surgery to try and create new Cartilage. That's a very serious stage of knee damage. Melo having a debridement isn't good, but it's not yet at the level of Amar'e.

These interventions might be expected to decrease the mechanical stress on cartilage, thus lessening cartilage loss, and to prevent the release of yet more fragments, thereby interrupting a vicious circle of joint damage and synovitis.

1. LAVAGE:
It removes debris such as free microscopic or macroscopic fragments of cartilage, calcium phosphate crystals, and others chemical products that may induce synovitis, a likely source of pain.
Lavage is common to all other techniques.

2. DÉBRIDEMENT:
It consists in smoothing rough, fibrillated articular and removal of torn menisci, shaving tibial-spine osteophytes and loose body removal that interfere with the motion of the joint, and minor synovectomy removing inflamed synovium.
The procedure became increasingly popular in the 1980s and 1990s with improved arthroscopic instrumentation and surgical technique as well as the minimal morbidity and swift recovery after the procedure.

There are 2 more serious operations to try and repair damage which is ARTHROSCOPIC ABRASION ARTHROPLASTY and MICROFRACTURE. It seems that in Melo's case they think he doesn't have such a serious knee damage that it would require those more drastic steps. My guess is that Melo should be fine but obviously he's experiencing the beginnings of knee issues but that doesn't mean that he's soon to be in need of a major surgery to repair loss of cartilage. It could be a very minor level of damage and still require his knee to be cleaned up. People need to relax on this idea that Melo is now going to be on minutes restrictions and needing to have Microfracture surgery. We don't know that yet.

One thing in Melo's favor is that his game isn't really about constant high jumping. He's got a pretty low impact game. His minutes should naturally be reduced or be given days off as he moves along in his career and we add more talent to the team so that he's not needed to log heavy minutes.

I have to edit my post in light of what Phil just said about Melo: The time table of 4-6 months indicates to me that Melo's Knee issue is of a more serious nature than was 1st suggested. It seems to me that they are describing something like ARTHROSCOPIC ABRASION ARTHROPLASTY:

Popularised by Lanny L. JOHHNSON in the 1980’s , it is a superficial abrasion performed to stimulate repair in the area of sclerotic lesions. Open surgical drilling procedures (PRIDIE) have been advocated to reach the blood supply and the plupotential cells to stimulate fibrocartilage growth. Rather than drill holes , mulitple superficial dimples are created with a motorized burr. This abrasion of sclerotic bone leads to bleeding and formation of a blood clot that attaches to anf fills the defect of abraded areas and will transform in fibrocartilage by 4 to 6 months.

Patient have to walk with non weight bearing crutches during two months and malalignement is a contraindication (limiting patient selection).

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2/18/2015  3:22 PM
Michael Kay talking about Melo's surgery like it is micro fracture. Saying Melo is going to have to have to have holes drilled in his knee cap. WTF. It is a debridement surgery.
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2/18/2015  3:27 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Hopefully he is not on a minutes restrictions the rest of his career. Or needs recovery days like Amare

Hopefully

Knowing our luck it wouldnt shock me. Amare was a bit of a different case since he has had bad knees most of his career. Melo has been pretty durable up until this year
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2/18/2015  5:02 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Michael Kay talking about Melo's surgery like it is micro fracture. Saying Melo is going to have to have to have holes drilled in his knee cap. WTF. It is a debridement surgery.

ESPN did indicate that recovery is estimated to be 4-6 months- much longer than we had earlier been told.
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Stein reporting Melo will be ruled out for the rest of the season today

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