holfresh wrote:So why would Melo agree to this?...Lin..hahahaha..The faithful never gives up..

I'll take any cheap and capable PG..but since this is my idea...of course I am going with Lin. Just replace Lin with a PG of your choosing.

Melo? I don't know. Wishful thinking?

thats a fun scenario you put forth. They'd need a few years to really come together. Not sure the economics of those rookie contracts all hitting at the same time would do, but it would be fun to build a "TEAM" and watch it grow.
Just don't know in this era that is possible anymore.

Washington tried it and failed. Krause tried it with his twin towers.

While Melo has his detracters, he is a proven commodity. Im not sure we can really field a true contender around him, but he can be a piece around someone else. Who that player is, I don't know.

Its a fun idea you proposed!

BigRedDog wrote:Not EVER happening. Melo would never go to sixers/ sixers NOT trading top pick. Stop wasting everyones time.

He is having fun. Of course Melo not agree to trade with Philly.

But hey, NICE dream!

The most realistic thing mentioned here was the possibility of reacquiring Jeremy Lin. God knows, I didn't like how his departure over here went at all and I know Dolan is probably still upset by it (and he's such a baby it's ridiculous---even talking about Lin probably isn't realistic) but I think if we could get him at fair market value this time -- I'd honestly consider burying the hatchet and taking him back. Just like a lot of us were all saying at the time -- what was Jeremy supposed to do, not take the money?? Come on--nobody was gonna pass up that payday. Can't really blame him...It all would depend on who we target in the draft first (Mudiay, Russell?) then do we target a top PG in FA (Knight, Dragic?). If we don't go after any of these top PGs (say we go for a big in the draft AND THEN several bigs in FA--that could happen), we'll still need a PG upgrade somehow (can't possibly think we're OK with Calderon/Pablo and Galloway, who's showing some positives thusfar, but IS NOT a starting caliber NBA PG--I think that's clear). This is where Jeremy Lin would fit in. Hasn't been the same since he left but he's still definitely starting caliber. Who knows -- we probably wouldn't see 'Linsanity' again but I think he'd play well here coming back, better than he's looked for both Houston and the Lakers. We already know he was comfortable here and could handle it. Some guys don't have the belly for NY--Lin did...And I think he'd be embraced by the fans once again. He's 6'3", still young and skilled (dude takes it hard to the hole--even finishing well with his left hand now which I didn't remember him using too much when he was here, shoots 3s well, is a good passer... He's not elite status but he's still a damn good PG. Say Lin commands between $5-7mm a year -- compare that to Dragic, who may command in upwards of $12-15mm a season. Granted, Dragic's performed better recently but pound for pound, is he really that much better than Lin? $10mm a season better? I don't think so. I could also picture Lin wanting to come back here if we'd have him -- wanting to right any wrongs that happened. Dolan won't have it so the whole point's moot -- but if it were up to me, Lin would definitely be on my board for a PG upgrade.

Finestrg wrote:I can't picture it but it was a cool "imagine what if" read.

The most realistic thing mentioned here was the possibility of reacquiring Jeremy Lin. God knows, I didn't like how his departure over here went at all and I know Dolan is probably still upset by it (and he's such a baby it's ridiculous---even talking about Lin probably isn't realistic) but I think if we could get him at fair market value this time -- I'd honestly consider burying the hatchet and taking him back. Just like a lot of us were all saying at the time -- what was Jeremy supposed to do, not take the money?? Come on--nobody was gonna pass up that payday. Can't really blame him...It all would depend on who we target in the draft first (Mudiay, Russell?) then do we target a top PG in FA (Knight, Dragic?). If we don't go after any of these top PGs (say we go for a big in the draft AND THEN several bigs in FA--that could happen), we'll still need a PG upgrade somehow (can't possibly think we're OK with Calderon/Pablo and Galloway, who's showing some positives thusfar, but IS NOT a starting caliber NBA PG--I think that's clear). This is where Jeremy Lin would fit in. Hasn't been the same since he left but he's still definitely starting caliber. Who knows -- we probably wouldn't see 'Linsanity' again but I think he'd play well here coming back, better than he's looked for both Houston and the Lakers. We already know he was comfortable here and could handle it. Some guys don't have the belly for NY--Lin did...And I think he'd be embraced by the fans once again. He's 6'3", still young and skilled (dude takes it hard to the hole--even finishing well with his left hand now which I didn't remember him using too much when he was here, shoots 3s well, is a good passer... He's not elite status but he's still a damn good PG. Say Lin commands between $5-7mm a year -- compare that to Dragic, who may command in upwards of $12-15mm a season. Granted, Dragic's performed better recently but pound for pound, is he really that much better than Lin? $10mm a season better? I don't think so. I could also picture Lin wanting to come back here if we'd have him -- wanting to right any wrongs that happened. Dolan won't have it so the whole point's moot -- but if were up to me, Lin would definitely be on my board for a PG upgrade.

Yeah. Money wise, I don't see a better value than Lin right now. I see him getting around MLE or less. Like you said, Dragic and Lin difference is not much but their price tag would be way apart.

Finestrg wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Finestrg wrote:I can't picture it but it was a cool "imagine what if" read.

The most realistic thing mentioned here was the possibility of reacquiring Jeremy Lin. God knows, I didn't like how his departure over here went at all and I know Dolan is probably still upset by it (and he's such a baby it's ridiculous---even talking about Lin probably isn't realistic) but I think if we could get him at fair market value this time -- I'd honestly consider burying the hatchet and taking him back. Just like a lot of us were all saying at the time -- what was Jeremy supposed to do, not take the money?? Come on--nobody was gonna pass up that payday. Can't really blame him...It all would depend on who we target in the draft first (Mudiay, Russell?) then do we target a top PG in FA (Knight, Dragic?). If we don't go after any of these top PGs (say we go for a big in the draft AND THEN several bigs in FA--that could happen), we'll still need a PG upgrade somehow (can't possibly think we're OK with Calderon/Pablo and Galloway, who's showing some positives thusfar, but IS NOT a starting caliber NBA PG--I think that's clear). This is where Jeremy Lin would fit in. Hasn't been the same since he left but he's still definitely starting caliber. Who knows -- we probably wouldn't see 'Linsanity' again but I think he'd play well here coming back, better than he's looked for both Houston and the Lakers. We already know he was comfortable here and could handle it. Some guys don't have the belly for NY--Lin did...And I think he'd be embraced by the fans once again. He's 6'3", still young and skilled (dude takes it hard to the hole--even finishing well with his left hand now which I didn't remember him using too much when he was here, shoots 3s well, is a good passer... He's not elite status but he's still a damn good PG. Say Lin commands between $5-7mm a year -- compare that to Dragic, who may command in upwards of $12-15mm a season. Granted, Dragic's performed better recently but pound for pound, is he really that much better than Lin? $10mm a season better? I don't think so. I could also picture Lin wanting to come back here if we'd have him -- wanting to right any wrongs that happened. Dolan won't have it so the whole point's moot -- but if were up to me, Lin would definitely be on my board for a PG upgrade.

Yeah. Money wise, I don't see a better value than Lin right now. I see him getting around MLE or less. Like you said, Dragic and Lin difference is not much but their price tag would be way apart.

You know what bro -- I just reviewed the numbers, and Dragic is having a hell of a year, even better than what Lin did in NY during Linsanity. Not trying to take anything away from him. He's a very efficient shooting PG -- 16.2 ppg on 50% FGs, 35.5% on 3s. He's also averaging 33.4 mins and over 13 shots a night. At first glance, Lin's numbers don't compare -- he's is only getting 25.5 mins a night though by comparison. See this is how I like doing comparisons and is about the extent to with I use "analytics" -- what if Lin got 8 more mins. and another 5 shots a game? Factoring in the fact that Lin goes to the line more than Dragic and that he'd be back in NY, a place he thrived in, I think you could very well see similar numbers -- maybe something close to 15-16 ppg. I also like the fact that Lin passes the ball a little more and averages more steals. Lin's even shooting his 3s better than Dragic this year...All in all 2015 Dragic vs. Jeremy Lin at the same usage level may be fairly negligible. Thinking about it in those terms, Dragic may not be worth $8-10mm more a pop.

Suns have to make some moves at the deadline- they have chemistry issues. Dragic isn't happy at there being 3 PGs, Isaiah Thomas isn't happy at being a bench player, Green isn't happy at his lack of playing time, and neither is Miles Plumlee. They need to make up their mind which players they want to keep and what have to go.

smackeddog wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Finestrg wrote:I can't picture it but it was a cool "imagine what if" read.

The most realistic thing mentioned here was the possibility of reacquiring Jeremy Lin. God knows, I didn't like how his departure over here went at all and I know Dolan is probably still upset by it (and he's such a baby it's ridiculous---even talking about Lin probably isn't realistic) but I think if we could get him at fair market value this time -- I'd honestly consider burying the hatchet and taking him back. Just like a lot of us were all saying at the time -- what was Jeremy supposed to do, not take the money?? Come on--nobody was gonna pass up that payday. Can't really blame him...It all would depend on who we target in the draft first (Mudiay, Russell?) then do we target a top PG in FA (Knight, Dragic?). If we don't go after any of these top PGs (say we go for a big in the draft AND THEN several bigs in FA--that could happen), we'll still need a PG upgrade somehow (can't possibly think we're OK with Calderon/Pablo and Galloway, who's showing some positives thusfar, but IS NOT a starting caliber NBA PG--I think that's clear). This is where Jeremy Lin would fit in. Hasn't been the same since he left but he's still definitely starting caliber. Who knows -- we probably wouldn't see 'Linsanity' again but I think he'd play well here coming back, better than he's looked for both Houston and the Lakers. We already know he was comfortable here and could handle it. Some guys don't have the belly for NY--Lin did...And I think he'd be embraced by the fans once again. He's 6'3", still young and skilled (dude takes it hard to the hole--even finishing well with his left hand now which I didn't remember him using too much when he was here, shoots 3s well, is a good passer... He's not elite status but he's still a damn good PG. Say Lin commands between $5-7mm a year -- compare that to Dragic, who may command in upwards of $12-15mm a season. Granted, Dragic's performed better recently but pound for pound, is he really that much better than Lin? $10mm a season better? I don't think so. I could also picture Lin wanting to come back here if we'd have him -- wanting to right any wrongs that happened. Dolan won't have it so the whole point's moot -- but if were up to me, Lin would definitely be on my board for a PG upgrade.

Yeah. Money wise, I don't see a better value than Lin right now. I see him getting around MLE or less. Like you said, Dragic and Lin difference is not much but their price tag would be way apart.

You know what bro -- I just reviewed the numbers, and Dragic is having a hell of a year, even better than what Lin did in NY during Linsanity. Not trying to take anything away from him. He's a very efficient shooting PG -- 16.2 ppg on 50% FGs, 35.5% on 3s. He's also averaging 33.4 mins and over 13 shots a night. At first glance, Lin's numbers don't compare -- he's is only getting 25.5 mins a night though by comparison. See this is how I like doing comparisons and is about the extent to with I use "analytics" -- what if Lin got 8 more mins. and another 5 shots a game? Factoring in the fact that Lin goes to the line more than Dragic and that he'd be back in NY, a place he thrived in, I think you could very well see similar numbers -- maybe something close to 15-16 ppg. I also like the fact that Lin passes the ball a little more and averages more steals. Lin's even shooting his 3s better than Dragic this year...All in all 2015 Dragic vs. Jeremy Lin at the same usage level may be fairly negligible. Thinking about it in those terms, Dragic may not be worth $8-10mm more a pop.

Suns have to make some moves at the deadline- they have chemistry issues. Dragic isn't happy at there being 3 PGs, Isaiah Thomas isn't happy at being a bench player, Green isn't happy at his lack of playing time, and neither is Miles Plumlee. They need to make up their mind which players they want to keep and what have to go.

Perhaps our best chance is Pheonix. How does one team do so well with acquiring PG's???
Oh, they don't trade away their future and sign players to crazy contracts.