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WaltLongmire
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2/10/2015  11:07 AM
Very surprised at the lack of an outcry by folks over Anthony tweaking his knee.

It is shear madness by the Knicks to not close him down at this point, and obvious selfishness on Anthony's part to continue so that he can play in an All-Star game that only has meaning as a promotional event.

He seemed quite spry at the start of the game, but he clearly has an issue with the knee, and I just don't understand how a team that has so much invested in him does not see that they might be jeopardizing their future by continuing to give him significant time on the floor. And does anyone believe the doctors associated with this team who say that he cannot further damage the knee by continuing to play?

Hell, he is not even playing within the Triangle for the most part, an offense that would actually keep him healthier because he would not be doing all the 1/1 moves that put stress on his injured knee. For the most part he disrupts the flow of the game as players seek to dump the ball in to him.

We deserve anything bad that happens if Anthony plays in the All-Star game and then continues to play the rest of the year.

Of course the greatest irony of all would be him getting injured more seriously in a meaningless showcase game in which he is attempting to promote his "brand."

How will guys feel if Anthony cannot start training camp on time next season because he is still recuperating?

Time to sit him down for good. Let him take a few shots in the All-Star game and then have him sit the rest of the game and the rest of the season.

Stop the madness... now.

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2/10/2015  11:09 AM
The whole thing is a Digital disaster
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2/10/2015  11:13 AM
I think they know exactly what is wrong with Melo and that it's not something serious. It's just painful, but not structurally dangerous. The way his pain comes and goes sounds like it's a loose body in his knee. That isn't necessarily that serious or risky a problem. If it was I doubt they'd let him keep doing what he's doing. That said I fully expect him to shut it down after the All Start game. He's held on this long just so he could possibly make an appearance in that game. As petty as that sounds to us, it's important to him.
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2/10/2015  11:19 AM

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and our intelligent management--yea let Melo play on a bad knee until he splits his acl and hes out a year. James dolan is calling some fan an idiot? No one is dumber than Dolan

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2/10/2015  11:34 AM
Yes, it is odd that he is playing at all.

Just get it fixed. I wonder if he had it done in December, he may be coming back now.

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2/10/2015  11:37 AM
Its all about getting healthy for the All Star break.....Melo wants to welcome other players to NY and he's trying to be in game shape to represent for the knicks...but more importantly, he's trying to recruit. I'm sure he rather recruit on two legs....vs....two crutches.
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2/10/2015  11:53 AM
And as everyone on this board knows, a 10 win team with IR Melo is certainly more attractive to FA's than a 10 win team with Melo playing.


Because anyone worth chunks of 2015/2016 cap money is just dying to play with .... Lance Thomas.

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2/10/2015  12:00 PM
jrodmc wrote:And as everyone on this board knows, a 10 win team with IR Melo is certainly more attractive to FA's than a 10 win team with Melo playing.


Because anyone worth chunks of 2015/2016 cap money is just dying to play with .... Lance Thomas.

And Im sure a team with Melo in a cast with a severed ACL will not only help with free agents but should be great for fans!

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2/10/2015  12:01 PM
It could be a biz decision as well..No Melo means less viewership...It could have an impact on MSG viewership and what MSG could charge for commercials in the upcoming year...Maybe that's why they keep running Melo out there..It might not matter after the all star break..
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2/10/2015  12:04 PM
holfresh wrote:It could be a biz decision as well..No Melo means less viewership...It could have an impact on MSG viewership and what MSG could charge for commercials in the upcoming year...Maybe that's why they keep running Melo out there..It might not matter after the all star break..

Yeah, it's the same neglect of the long-term picture that the team has had since Dolan took over
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2/10/2015  12:08 PM
holfresh wrote:It could be a biz decision as well..No Melo means less viewership...It could have an impact on MSG viewership and what MSG could charge for commercials in the upcoming year...Maybe that's why they keep running Melo out there..It might not matter after the all star break..

agreed... melo was brought here by dolan and is being paid by dolan to generate revenue, not win titles. nothing wrong with that. it's dolan's team, he's the owner, and everything remains an extension of dolan and his values and character.

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2/10/2015  12:23 PM
Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...
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2/10/2015  12:32 PM
holfresh wrote:Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...

agreed... when you don't honor your contract because of a looming labor dispute, and you force your way to a team, gutting it in the process, then at some point you have to take ownership of that and perform even if you have a boo boo. after all basketball is a game and a business.

you have fun and make money.

and of course when you manage to rid the team of its coach, a player who saved a season, then that's just forestalling the inevitable, namely that you have to go to work in meaningless games. and when the entire franchise has been catering to your needs for 4 years with nothing to show for it, then it's time to suck it up and go to work in meaningless games.

but it's still a game so have fun and make money.

and when you have signed a contract for 124 million dollars with a no trade agreement, then it really doesn't matter what you do, sit or play, meaningful games, meaningless games.

just go out and have fun doing what you do best. having fun and making money, and oh-- i almost forgot-- promote your brand which extends far above and beyond the game of basketball anyway....

nothing wrong with that.

dolan's happy, the fanbase is being entertained. that's all that really matters.

so go out there and have fun, and make money. it's a shame that the other folks aren't as fortunate, neither having fun nor making as much money, but oh well la dee dah

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2/10/2015  12:33 PM
It's all about the brand with Melo. He needs to play in the All-Star game.
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2/10/2015  12:37 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...

agreed... when you don't honor your contract because of a looming labor dispute, and you force your way to a team, gutting it in the process, then at some point you have to take ownership of that and perform even if you have a boo boo. after all basketball is a game and a business.

you have fun and make money.

and of course when you manage to rid the team of its coach, a player who saved a season, then that's just forestalling the inevitable, namely that you have to go to work in meaningless games. and when the entire franchise has been catering to your needs for 4 years with nothing to show for it, then it's time to suck it up and go to work in meaningless games.

but it's still a game so have fun and make money.

and when you have signed a contract for 124 million dollars with a no trade agreement, then it really doesn't matter what you do, sit or play, meaningful games, meaningless games.

just go out and have fun doing what you do best. having fun and making money, and oh-- i almost forgot-- promote your brand which extends far above and beyond the game of basketball anyway....

nothing wrong with that.

dolan's happy, the fanbase is being entertained. that's all that really matters.

so go out there and have fun, and make money. it's a shame that the other folks aren't as fortunate, neither having fun nor making as much money, but oh well la dee dah

Your continued focus on one individual have blinded you to all else happening in the organization...

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2/10/2015  12:39 PM
What an inspiration Carmelo Anthony is. He's playing through the pain, all so he can make it to the all star break so that he can gives the other all stars a little extra rest as they get ready for their playoff run! The heroism of Melo runs strong and forever!
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2/10/2015  12:43 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...

agreed... when you don't honor your contract because of a looming labor dispute, and you force your way to a team, gutting it in the process, then at some point you have to take ownership of that and perform even if you have a boo boo. after all basketball is a game and a business.

you have fun and make money.

and of course when you manage to rid the team of its coach, a player who saved a season, then that's just forestalling the inevitable, namely that you have to go to work in meaningless games. and when the entire franchise has been catering to your needs for 4 years with nothing to show for it, then it's time to suck it up and go to work in meaningless games.

but it's still a game so have fun and make money.

and when you have signed a contract for 124 million dollars with a no trade agreement, then it really doesn't matter what you do, sit or play, meaningful games, meaningless games.

just go out and have fun doing what you do best. having fun and making money, and oh-- i almost forgot-- promote your brand which extends far above and beyond the game of basketball anyway....

nothing wrong with that.

dolan's happy, the fanbase is being entertained. that's all that really matters.

so go out there and have fun, and make money. it's a shame that the other folks aren't as fortunate, neither having fun nor making as much money, but oh well la dee dah

Your continued focus on one individual have blinded you to all else happening in the organization...

it's a thread about carmelo anthinay holfresh. did the knicks get to this place without his help?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/10/2015  12:51 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...

agreed... when you don't honor your contract because of a looming labor dispute, and you force your way to a team, gutting it in the process, then at some point you have to take ownership of that and perform even if you have a boo boo. after all basketball is a game and a business.

you have fun and make money.

and of course when you manage to rid the team of its coach, a player who saved a season, then that's just forestalling the inevitable, namely that you have to go to work in meaningless games. and when the entire franchise has been catering to your needs for 4 years with nothing to show for it, then it's time to suck it up and go to work in meaningless games.

but it's still a game so have fun and make money.

and when you have signed a contract for 124 million dollars with a no trade agreement, then it really doesn't matter what you do, sit or play, meaningful games, meaningless games.

just go out and have fun doing what you do best. having fun and making money, and oh-- i almost forgot-- promote your brand which extends far above and beyond the game of basketball anyway....

nothing wrong with that.

dolan's happy, the fanbase is being entertained. that's all that really matters.

so go out there and have fun, and make money. it's a shame that the other folks aren't as fortunate, neither having fun nor making as much money, but oh well la dee dah

Your continued focus on one individual have blinded you to all else happening in the organization...


At this moment, the "organization" IS Melo and Dolan. You don't think that Anthony could end his season with a simple call to Phil? Just had a thread where some wanted to gut the entire roster and start building around Anthony. Do you really think you can build around a guy who is 31 in a few months if he is recovering from knee surgery. Age and injury in a sport that requires athleticism is a bad formula for future success.

Anthony has little value if he becomes another Amare. Not saying that this will ever be the case, but Dolan and Phil have wed themselves to Anthony at great cost, and this team will be limited beyond belief if Anthony is not playing like a star because of injury.

If Anthony is to be the "face" of this team, he has to be on the floor and healthy. I don't have much trust in the doctors used by this team, and prefer to do things the safe way by sitting him down from now on. It benefits Anthony and the future of the team, and also helps us get a higher slot in the draft.

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2/10/2015  1:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2015  1:03 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one has to pay for Amare's contract, Phil's contract, Fish's contract, Barg's contract, etc...So far they are all non performing...

agreed... when you don't honor your contract because of a looming labor dispute, and you force your way to a team, gutting it in the process, then at some point you have to take ownership of that and perform even if you have a boo boo. after all basketball is a game and a business.

you have fun and make money.

and of course when you manage to rid the team of its coach, a player who saved a season, then that's just forestalling the inevitable, namely that you have to go to work in meaningless games. and when the entire franchise has been catering to your needs for 4 years with nothing to show for it, then it's time to suck it up and go to work in meaningless games.

but it's still a game so have fun and make money.

and when you have signed a contract for 124 million dollars with a no trade agreement, then it really doesn't matter what you do, sit or play, meaningful games, meaningless games.

just go out and have fun doing what you do best. having fun and making money, and oh-- i almost forgot-- promote your brand which extends far above and beyond the game of basketball anyway....

nothing wrong with that.

dolan's happy, the fanbase is being entertained. that's all that really matters.

so go out there and have fun, and make money. it's a shame that the other folks aren't as fortunate, neither having fun nor making as much money, but oh well la dee dah

Your continued focus on one individual have blinded you to all else happening in the organization...


At this moment, the "organization" IS Melo and Dolan. You don't think that Anthony could end his season with a simple call to Phil? Just had a thread where some wanted to gut the entire roster and start building around Anthony. Do you really think you can build around a guy who is 31 in a few months if he is recovering from knee surgery. Age and injury in a sport that requires athleticism is a bad formula for future success.

Anthony has little value if he becomes another Amare. Not saying that this will ever be the case, but Dolan and Phil have wed themselves to Anthony at great cost, and this team will be limited beyond belief if Anthony is not playing like a star because of injury.

If Anthony is to be the "face" of this team, he has to be on the floor and healthy. I don't have much trust in the doctors used by this team, and prefer to do things the safe way by sitting him down from now on. It benefits Anthony and the future of the team, and also helps us get a higher slot in the draft.


Dolan is off playing music someplace..Leave Dolan out of this..This is about Phil's vision...Phil didn't have to resign Melo but he wanted to...Dolan didn't trade Chandler for Calderon, Phil did, Dolan didn't trade JR and Shump to Cleve where life has been breathed into that franchise and we got nothing in return...Dolan didn't hire Fisher and say " the triangle has been much maligned in today's NBA"..

Personally I think Phil could be a very good GM..But he has to get the best possible coach and empower him, which he didn't do...So here we are blaming Dolan again, while most here applauded the Phil Jackson hire..It rings empty to me...Horace Grant is on deck...
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2/10/2015  1:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2015  1:12 PM
Also, I could see management and Melo wanting to play in the all star game to recruit players...Melo would be a far more effective recruiter in the locker room and around NY during the all star game if he is ambulatory..If he is laid up or on crutches, it not as good a sales pitch...It won't be a good visual image if he isn't vibrant...
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