BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

Idk ...

I me be softening on Smith

I think that I may be seeing a bit of what Phil envisions ... LOL ... seriously. He has been playing much better and moving closer and closer to behind the arc.

I think the guy has potential to be efficient if he moves some/most of those long 2's to short 3's.

He might has a chance to be efficient but he still doesn't rebound or play any defense. I do not want bigs that do not rebound or play defense unless they are highly extremely super extraordinarily efficient.

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

Idk ...

I me be softening on Smith

I think that I may be seeing a bit of what Phil envisions ... LOL ... seriously. He has been playing much better and moving closer and closer to behind the arc.

I think the guy has potential to be efficient if he moves some/most of those long 2's to short 3's.

He might has a chance to be efficient but he still doesn't rebound or play any defense. I do not want bigs that do not rebound or play defense unless they are highly extremely super extraordinarily efficient.

defense has been better lately and he has also been racking up the assists.

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

Idk ...

I me be softening on Smith

I think that I may be seeing a bit of what Phil envisions ... LOL ... seriously. He has been playing much better and moving closer and closer to behind the arc.

I think the guy has potential to be efficient if he moves some/most of those long 2's to short 3's.

He might has a chance to be efficient but he still doesn't rebound or play any defense. I do not want bigs that do not rebound or play defense unless they are highly extremely super extraordinarily efficient.

defense has been better lately and he has also been racking up the assists.

I'll see how he closes and do not mind being wrong but check out his recent game log efficiency. I will say he has been banging and hedging on the high pnrs like a champ recently but a few games here and there is not enough to sway me right now.

I'm like you ... hope that I was wrong about him.

Calderon is also starting to play much better but that I expected.

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

What I envision out of the 5 for next year would be anjica smith and a secondary draft pick from rd 2. If not I'll pay up for a premium of like millsap

Finestrg wrote:

TPercy wrote:Smith is not a starting player, that is the problem, his solid jumpshot and ability to spread the floor as well as get a few dimes would be very helpful off the bench in the longrun.If we signed a quality big to start over him then I think he can do fine here.

He's played much better over the past 7-8 games or so, much closer to the Jason Smith we saw play for New Orleans. His grit, toughness and shot-blocking has resurfaced...Still, I think we could do better for a backup/spot-starting 4/5-man.

I honestly don't to be frank. Bigs are quite expensive in the league and there arnt that many cheap ones that can consistently hit that jumper like he can. I mean sure we could add another one and move him to 3rd string or whatever but what he brings is going to be very helpful to us.

TPercy wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TPercy wrote:Smith is not a starting player, that is the problem, his solid jumpshot and ability to spread the floor as well as get a few dimes would be very helpful off the bench in the longrun.If we signed a quality big to start over him then I think he can do fine here.

He's played much better over the past 7-8 games or so, much closer to the Jason Smith we saw play for New Orleans. His grit, toughness and shot-blocking has resurfaced...Still, I think we could do better for a backup/spot-starting 4/5-man.

I honestly don't to be frank. Bigs are quite expensive in the league and there arnt that many cheap ones that can consistently hit that jumper like he can. I mean sure we could add another one and move him to 3rd string or whatever but what he brings is going to be very helpful to us.

Take a look a Lavoy Allen's numbers -- nothing Earth-shattering but his numbers are better right across the board in the same amount of playing time (around 20 mins.). More efficient FG% (closer to that 50% mark you'd expect from a big man), better FT shooter (Allen also gets to the line more), much better rebounder, more blocks...Jason Smith really hasn't had a great year for us. Dude's been MIA for the longest time. I like Smith, glad to see that he's finally showed up to play (looks like he's trying to incorporate the 3-ball into his attack now a little bit and as of recently & he's definitely started playing harder/tougher) but I think there are better options. For the amount of money we're probably talking about for a 2nd line primary backup big-man (4/5), I think Allen's the better choice even if he might cost a tad more. Alexis Ajinca as well...As for 3rd string bigs, I think there are better options here too; guys that would cost less than Smith. Just mho.

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

Idk ...

I me be softening on Smith

I think that I may be seeing a bit of what Phil envisions ... LOL ... seriously. He has been playing much better and moving closer and closer to behind the arc.

I think the guy has potential to be efficient if he moves some/most of those long 2's to short 3's.

He might has a chance to be efficient but he still doesn't rebound or play any defense. I do not want bigs that do not rebound or play defense unless they are highly extremely super extraordinarily efficient.

defense has been better lately and he has also been racking up the assists.

I'll see how he closes and do not mind being wrong but check out his recent game log efficiency. I will say he has been banging and hedging on the high pnrs like a champ recently but a few games here and there is not enough to sway me right now.

I'm like you ... hope that I was wrong about him.

Calderon is also starting to play much better but that I expected.

Right now he looks a lot like Doleac to me, better passer, not quite the rebounder but an OK role player.

Calderon is looking much better also. Should be an interesting deadline

martin wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'm not saying number 1 like wed be getting kd I'm saying potential number 1 value free agent who also has significant upside. A Dragic or a Knight will cost 14mm plus. I don't think they are of the same relative value. I think if we sign anjica for 5mm and resign smith for 4 with appropriate 4acquisitions will be straight.

You were doing so good until you mentioned Smith. With Ajinca there really isn't a need for "Junior Bargs". Honestly, I don't think he will cost that much money. The good thing is that N.O. only has his early bird rights so they can only go as high as 175% of the avg nba's salary.2014-15 NBA Player Contracts

2014-15 Salary Cap: $63,065,000

Average Salary: $4,116,185

So, regardless the Knicks can easily out pay the Pelicans while staying under $6M.

Idk ...

I me be softening on Smith

I think that I may be seeing a bit of what Phil envisions ... LOL ... seriously. He has been playing much better and moving closer and closer to behind the arc.

I think the guy has potential to be efficient if he moves some/most of those long 2's to short 3's.

He might has a chance to be efficient but he still doesn't rebound or play any defense. I do not want bigs that do not rebound or play defense unless they are highly extremely super extraordinarily efficient.

And that is exactly why I am on the Karl Towns bandwagon. The role that Jason Smith is playing right now would easily get dominated by Towns. His outside shot, passing ability not to mention the rebounding and shot blocking would be a perfect match in the triangle. If we somehow got Gasol, a Gasol/Towns/Melo lead team might take the league by storm next season.

This is one scenario whereby if we don't get the first overall (assuming that would be Okafor) and Towns turned into a player he is capable of being, I would love. You have 2 post players who fit the triangle perfectly in Gasol and Melo, and Towns who can spread the floor and is agile enough on defense. Part 2 of that plan would be to bring in a Matthews type. Gasol, Towns, Melo, Matthews, Gallo. I'd love that team.

dream team!