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BRIGGS
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1/24/2015  9:56 PM
lost it yet we got good play out of THJ Langston and Thomas.

We cannot win without Caremlo--and for the good of the team he should make sure he is able to go back to back next year

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mreinman
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1/24/2015  9:59 PM
what?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
BRIGGS
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1/24/2015  10:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2015  10:25 PM
mreinman wrote:what?

Means we lost stayed competitive and the right guys played well. We will lose most of our games without melo--but does it make sense that he plays--if he cant go back to back now--than he should be down for next year.

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1/24/2015  10:30 PM
i agree. we didn't get blown out and embarrassed. some kids showed some skills. and we lost. it was a win- win.
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1/24/2015  11:06 PM
The execution was really good in this game in terms of running the offense. Passing and cutting was good. They still make mistakes but they're getting fewer and the effort level is increasing.

Knicks have to develop their own players and games like this will be great learning experience.
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1/24/2015  11:22 PM
I thought Melo got a bruise or something.

For a $125M, I should like to think he can play every game. This year is lost, he needs to shut it down and lay off the useless wear and tear.

I said this before the season started- our best path to being better would be Melo sidelined with a minor injury so he can let his body rest and be fully ready to go next season.
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1/25/2015  12:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2015  12:04 AM
If we would have won the game, it would have showed a sign of development, give the young guys confidence, including Fisher. When you lose close games, you will have no belief that you can win a game like that, you will be nervous, fumbling and bumbling, Turning the ball over, drawing up plays that don't work.

The game is far more mental then physical, moral victories does nothing in terms of growth. I understand draft position, but development brings value to young players, it gives you more flexibility on draft night, or the trade deadline.

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1/25/2015  12:13 AM
knicks1248 wrote:If we would have won the game, it would have showed a sign of development, give the young guys confidence, including Fisher. When you lose close games, you will have no belief that you can win a game like that, you will be nervous, fumbling and bumbling, Turning the ball over, drawing up plays that don't work.

The game is far more mental then physical, moral victories does nothing in terms of growth. I understand draft position, but development brings value to young players, it gives you more flexibility on draft night, or the trade deadline.

the guys on the roster playing- besides Melo- none of them are likely to be here next season.

We don't need our mediocre talent to have confidence- we need an upgrade of talent, and there is one sure fire way to improve that- the draft.

Sure- Langston is a keeper, but he needs to prove he can sustain his play. Frank Williams looked like Clyde for a week of games- then disappeared out of the league.
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1/25/2015  7:40 AM
There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.
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1/25/2015  8:07 AM
It was so perfect when I saw THJ turned the ball over in the last possession.
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1/25/2015  10:52 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

You're right- we'd be much better off without a high pick than with one! No good can ever come of a high draft pick, I'd much rather risk everything on free agency!
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1/25/2015  11:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2015  11:32 AM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

You're right- we'd be much better off without a high pick than with one! No good can ever come of a high draft pick, I'd much rather risk everything on free agency!


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1/25/2015  11:42 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

My guess is you haven't looked. Check the realgm boards for the Sixers and the twolves. Lots of draft stuff over there.

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1/25/2015  12:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2015  12:21 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

My guess is you haven't looked. Check the realgm boards for the Sixers and the twolves. Lots of draft stuff over there.


Fair enough. My statement probably applies to all teams with desperate fans
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1/25/2015  12:24 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

My guess is you haven't looked. Check the realgm boards for the Sixers and the twolves. Lots of draft stuff over there.


Fair enough. My statement probably applies to all teams with desperate fans
When people are saying you could get the next Tim Duncan in a draft talk about the draft class comes up.
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1/25/2015  1:56 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

well ... duncan and clyde are coming from this draft so not sure why that would not make you excited.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/25/2015  2:02 PM
talent level on this team just really sucks
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1/25/2015  2:38 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

You're right- we'd be much better off without a high pick than with one! No good can ever come of a high draft pick, I'd much rather risk everything on free agency!


Your $124 mil hero thinks you're wrong

I didn't even want to sign Melo this offseason.
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mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

well ... duncan and clyde are coming from this draft so not sure why that would not make you excited.


Okafor is widely regarded as a potential future Tim Duncan-type.

“Yes, I think every team should be hoping they get him,” Jay Bilas told SNY.tv and The Knicks Blog.

“The lottery makes it theoretically possible for any team to grab the No. 1 spot but he’s a phenomenal talent and he’s got a big body. He’s athletic, he’s super skilled. He can pass, there’s really nothing he can’t do out there. He’s not a big time rebounder. You say that he’s not rebounding as well as he can, he’s averaging 10 a game. The one thing he’s not is, he’s not a dominant shot-blocker, but boy offensively is he skilled.”

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/jackson-mills-melo-watch-okafor-at-msg/
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mreinman
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CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:There are a lot of good FAs that we need to attract. I haven't seen anyone except desperate Knicks fans saying this draft class is worth tanking for.

well ... duncan and clyde are coming from this draft so not sure why that would not make you excited.


Okafor is widely regarded as a potential future Tim Duncan-type.

“Yes, I think every team should be hoping they get him,” Jay Bilas told SNY.tv and The Knicks Blog.

“The lottery makes it theoretically possible for any team to grab the No. 1 spot but he’s a phenomenal talent and he’s got a big body. He’s athletic, he’s super skilled. He can pass, there’s really nothing he can’t do out there. He’s not a big time rebounder. You say that he’s not rebounding as well as he can, he’s averaging 10 a game. The one thing he’s not is, he’s not a dominant shot-blocker, but boy offensively is he skilled.”

http://theknicksblog.com/knicks/jackson-mills-melo-watch-okafor-at-msg/

yeah ... I read that. And I have read about many many many others over the years who were the future this or future that.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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